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In more great news for the Giants, Hakeem Nicks is out 3 weeks.
"Hakeem Nicks will be out of action for three weeks as he is being treated for Compartment Syndrome in his lower right leg. Compartment Syndrome is swelling in the lower leg which compresses nerves and blood vessels and can lead to muscle and nerve damage if not treated immediately."
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/11/giants_receiver_hakeem_nicks_l.html
"Hakeem Nicks will be out of action for three weeks as he is being treated for Compartment Syndrome in his lower right leg. Compartment Syndrome is swelling in the lower leg which compresses nerves and blood vessels and can lead to muscle and nerve damage if not treated immediately."
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/11/giants_receiver_hakeem_nicks_l.html
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AchrisK
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don't worry...Eli is not the only Manning that threw-up on his shoes yesterday
Yeah, but Peyton is smart. He's obviously a good player. I am not sure how sharp that Eli is. I guess everyone makes bonehead moves, but has Eli demonstrated that he is a good decision maker the majority of the time?
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What the hell? Well, that news about Nicks seriously dims the Giants' chances of making the playoffs now. And regarding Eli's football IQ: I have to say that, despite being prone to an occasional bone-headed move, for which there is no excuse, he is a very intelligent football player and a diligent worker. He has learned a lot from his brother and regularly shows that he is ahead of his opponents mentally in subtle ways not obvious to the average viewer that don't show up on highlight reels. His receivers have been unusually prone to having balls deflect off of their hands and into the hands of defensive backs this year. A lot of his interceptions have not been his fault.
AchrisK: I'm sorry the Chargers' division rivals did not destroy the Steelers, though in compensation, Richard Seymour did punch Roethlisberger in the face and knock him on his ass. He may, in turn, become the first player suspended under the new enforcement policy.
Speaking of which, watching several games the last three weeks (and I'm going to be honest, especially Steelers games), I think it's obvious that the league has produced trigger happy officials who are afraid to not call a flag if they think they might have seen one. I've seen more bad calls in the span of 3 weeks than I can ever remember seeing in a such a stretch in my life. The Steelers have already been apologized to twice in that time period by the league for calling undeserved penalties against them, and there are a couple from yesterday that deserve an apology as well, especially a phantom helmet to helmet hit on Ryan Clark and a 'generous' roughing the passer call on James Harrison that negated an Ike Taylor pick 6. The Steelers ultimately ended up setting a franchise record in penalty yards despite thumping the Raiders 35-3 with 163 on 14 accepted penalties. Granted that the majority of them were deserved, but 3 or 4 were very questionable or simply absurd.
On the plus side, it seems as though Emmanuel Sanders has supplanted Antwaan Randle El as the third receiver, and they even had Sanders and fellow rookie Antonio Brown active in the same game. They both caught passes, including a Sanders touchdown, his second in two games.
I was also glad to see Isaac Redman get his first career touchdown, albeit on a screen pass. I believe that they need to continue to incorporate him more into the running game. He needs to spell Mendenhall more in key situations, not just in mop up duty. It would be better for both backs. Redman is a much more physical body type that can help wear down defenders and open up wider lanes for Mendenhall's superior speed and quickness.
I also would just like to say that what Mendenhall has been able to do with this meager, porous, and constantly rotating offensive line is very impressive. Currently, only one player on the line is starting in the position that they had planned going back to training camp. Of course that doesn't include Pouncey starting at center instead of his projected right guard position. But they lost right tackle Willie Colon in OTAs and Max Startks a couple weeks ago for the remainder of the season, replaced, respectively, by Flozell Adams and career journeyman Jonathan Scott, whose name you are unfamiliar with for good reason. Trai Essex has finally been benched for his poor performance and has been replaced with the mediocre Ramon Foster. Chris Kemoeatu is the only player starting in his intended position at left guard. All of them have battled injuries this season, although Pouncey is the only one who has not missed a game. He left yesterday's game in the second quarter and did not return, replaced by The Guy with the Best Football Name in Years, Doug Legursky, who, not surprisingly, is also nothing special. Pouncey said that he will play next week though.
Roethlisberger probably played his most consistent game of the season thus far, which a completion percentage hindered somewhat by dropped balls. I think he hit more different receivers in a game than he ever has in his entire career, and that's without Mendenhall even being targeted once. Mike Wallace had his third consecutive game with 100+ yards and a touchdown, and he is improving weekly in his short and intermediate route running, which is what he needs to do to replace Santonio Holmes. He had a nice run after the catch for a 52 yard touchdown that looked very Holmes-like, circa 2008 playoffs.
Defensively, the linebacking corps. did nothing but reinforce the notion that they are the best in the league, including depth. By the end of the game, LeBeau was employing essentially a 4-2-5 defense, with Chris Hoke and Steve McLendon as the DTs and rookies Jason Worilds and Stevenson Sylvester as the DEs, with Worilds ending up getting his second sack of the season. The middle linebackers were Keyaron Fox and Larry Foote. The defensive backs were William Gay, Ryan Mundy, Keenan Lewis, Anthony Madison, and Bryant McFadden, who only played at that point because Will Allen was inactive while still recovering from a concussion. How many of those guys have you even heard of? Anyway, back to the linebackers, Farrior had probably his best game in years, a lot of which is not for stat sheets to verify. Lawrence Timmons was somewhat slowed by a hip pointer he suffered last week. LaMarr Woodley had a sack and generally had an all around good game. James Harrison, however, had 5 tackles a I believe, two sacks, a forced fumble, and interception, two QB hurries, and a pass defensed. He has almost twice as many tackles as the two players ahead of him in sacks, Cameron Wake and Clay Matthews, hinting toward the obvious fact that Harrison is the superior football player. Ziggy Hood also probably had the tightest contain replacing Aaron Smith that he has had as of yet in his career, which is definitely a good sign. Hopefully Brett Keisel will be back next week and Aaron Smith will return before the postseason.
There's plenty more I could say but I know nobody cares.
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Update: Richard Seymour was merely fined $25,000. He deserved to be suspended. I don't understand how anybody is supposed to take the league's threats of suspension seriously if something like this does not warrant it.
AchrisK: I'm sorry the Chargers' division rivals did not destroy the Steelers, though in compensation, Richard Seymour did punch Roethlisberger in the face and knock him on his ass. He may, in turn, become the first player suspended under the new enforcement policy.
Speaking of which, watching several games the last three weeks (and I'm going to be honest, especially Steelers games), I think it's obvious that the league has produced trigger happy officials who are afraid to not call a flag if they think they might have seen one. I've seen more bad calls in the span of 3 weeks than I can ever remember seeing in a such a stretch in my life. The Steelers have already been apologized to twice in that time period by the league for calling undeserved penalties against them, and there are a couple from yesterday that deserve an apology as well, especially a phantom helmet to helmet hit on Ryan Clark and a 'generous' roughing the passer call on James Harrison that negated an Ike Taylor pick 6. The Steelers ultimately ended up setting a franchise record in penalty yards despite thumping the Raiders 35-3 with 163 on 14 accepted penalties. Granted that the majority of them were deserved, but 3 or 4 were very questionable or simply absurd.
On the plus side, it seems as though Emmanuel Sanders has supplanted Antwaan Randle El as the third receiver, and they even had Sanders and fellow rookie Antonio Brown active in the same game. They both caught passes, including a Sanders touchdown, his second in two games.
I was also glad to see Isaac Redman get his first career touchdown, albeit on a screen pass. I believe that they need to continue to incorporate him more into the running game. He needs to spell Mendenhall more in key situations, not just in mop up duty. It would be better for both backs. Redman is a much more physical body type that can help wear down defenders and open up wider lanes for Mendenhall's superior speed and quickness.
I also would just like to say that what Mendenhall has been able to do with this meager, porous, and constantly rotating offensive line is very impressive. Currently, only one player on the line is starting in the position that they had planned going back to training camp. Of course that doesn't include Pouncey starting at center instead of his projected right guard position. But they lost right tackle Willie Colon in OTAs and Max Startks a couple weeks ago for the remainder of the season, replaced, respectively, by Flozell Adams and career journeyman Jonathan Scott, whose name you are unfamiliar with for good reason. Trai Essex has finally been benched for his poor performance and has been replaced with the mediocre Ramon Foster. Chris Kemoeatu is the only player starting in his intended position at left guard. All of them have battled injuries this season, although Pouncey is the only one who has not missed a game. He left yesterday's game in the second quarter and did not return, replaced by The Guy with the Best Football Name in Years, Doug Legursky, who, not surprisingly, is also nothing special. Pouncey said that he will play next week though.
Roethlisberger probably played his most consistent game of the season thus far, which a completion percentage hindered somewhat by dropped balls. I think he hit more different receivers in a game than he ever has in his entire career, and that's without Mendenhall even being targeted once. Mike Wallace had his third consecutive game with 100+ yards and a touchdown, and he is improving weekly in his short and intermediate route running, which is what he needs to do to replace Santonio Holmes. He had a nice run after the catch for a 52 yard touchdown that looked very Holmes-like, circa 2008 playoffs.
Defensively, the linebacking corps. did nothing but reinforce the notion that they are the best in the league, including depth. By the end of the game, LeBeau was employing essentially a 4-2-5 defense, with Chris Hoke and Steve McLendon as the DTs and rookies Jason Worilds and Stevenson Sylvester as the DEs, with Worilds ending up getting his second sack of the season. The middle linebackers were Keyaron Fox and Larry Foote. The defensive backs were William Gay, Ryan Mundy, Keenan Lewis, Anthony Madison, and Bryant McFadden, who only played at that point because Will Allen was inactive while still recovering from a concussion. How many of those guys have you even heard of? Anyway, back to the linebackers, Farrior had probably his best game in years, a lot of which is not for stat sheets to verify. Lawrence Timmons was somewhat slowed by a hip pointer he suffered last week. LaMarr Woodley had a sack and generally had an all around good game. James Harrison, however, had 5 tackles a I believe, two sacks, a forced fumble, and interception, two QB hurries, and a pass defensed. He has almost twice as many tackles as the two players ahead of him in sacks, Cameron Wake and Clay Matthews, hinting toward the obvious fact that Harrison is the superior football player. Ziggy Hood also probably had the tightest contain replacing Aaron Smith that he has had as of yet in his career, which is definitely a good sign. Hopefully Brett Keisel will be back next week and Aaron Smith will return before the postseason.
There's plenty more I could say but I know nobody cares.
Edit:
Update: Richard Seymour was merely fined $25,000. He deserved to be suspended. I don't understand how anybody is supposed to take the league's threats of suspension seriously if something like this does not warrant it.
Jimmy... Dead.
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That's not true. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Patriot game seeing as you completely bypassed it.
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haha wow...Ben took it like a bitch. He's wearing a fucking helmet but yet he collapsed like he took a judo chop to the spinal cord. so sad
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Eh, it wasn't a very likely possibility, and it is better for the Chargers that the Steelers won. The Steelers dominated.
I have to admit I got a certain sick satisfaction in that Seymore hit on Rothlisburger. Not that I think it was at all cool or appropriate, obviously. I think the punishment was not higher because it wasn't during game play, and didn't really put Rothlisberger in any real danger of harm. It was pretty mean, though.
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Man, that hit was so fast and unexpected, it's hard to blame him. He probably just had no idea what had even happened.
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I honestly only saw the highlights of this game, so there's really not a ton that I can comment on, but from what I am familiar with, the game played out basically as one would expect with the sole exception being Manning throwing a duck with less than 40 seconds remaining in the game. The Patriots ran on the Colts as most teams do, they used their tight ends and complex blocking schemes to neutralize Freeney and Mathis, and Brady picked his spots when necessary while emphasizing control of time and tempo. The touch that he put on the touchdown to Welker was pretty damn nice, for one. But they let their foot off the gas once they built a good lead, which almost proved costly. Manning was seemingly battling himself for a lot of the game as he sailed a couple of passes, but as he usually does, he brought his team to the brink. It's unfortunate that his final mistake came within field goal range, but it's really hard to fault a guy like Peyton. Almost any other quarterback in the league would be skewered for making that throw, of course, but that's a separate matter. The simple fact of that matter for playing both of these teams is that if you don't get pressure on the quarterback, you're probably going to lose. There are very few teams that a defense like the Steelers in their zone scheme is susceptible to, and nobody executes that better than Tom Brady and Bill Bellichick, unfortunately. The Patriots turn conventions on their heads and play the odds against the Steelers, so I don't understand why the Steelers refuse to adapt. It's been shown to them over and over again this past decade that their scheme is not suited to 75% short, quick passes every time they play the Patriots, and it disturbs me every time that they act surprised by it. But now I'm going off on a tangent.
I've never been palm-thrusted in the jaw unsuspectedly by a 310 pound man so I'm not going to try to speculate how I would react physiologically speaking, but either way I'm really not particularly concerned with how well somebody is able to take a shot.
That's funny because I feel like the punishment should have been greater for the very fact that it wasn't during game play. It was several seconds after the play was dead, and a sucker punch is in no way "part of the game". I have no problem with fights and tussles that stem directly from a particularly combative matchup (there had already been one earlier in that drive between Seymour and Chris Kemoeatu, the guard responsible for blocking him), which I thought was perfectly fine because it was merely an extension of the aggressive play. But what Seymour did to Roethlisberger was something entirely different and I believe deserves a different level of discipline. I'd like to think I would be saying this regardless of who hit whom. What does everybody else feel about this? Seymour is also a repeat offender over the last two years, having been fined multiple times previously and been ejected from a game last year against the Browns.
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For some reason I thought Jimmy was talking about the Steelers-Patriots game.
The problems that the Colts faced in this game were as follows:
1) Injuries. This is the main reason the Colts have struggled in so many games this season against seemingly "lesser" foes, a perfect example would be the Bengals game. When you go without your leading receiver, one of the best tight ends in football, two of your best linebackers, one of which being the captain and anchor of the defense, and last not but not least, your stud safety and his backup, then yeah a team is probably going to have some problems now and then. Unfortunately for the Colts this can't be an excuse any more (although I have a hard time convincing myself of that sometimes) because this has been a recurring problem for them year in and out.
2) The type of offense New England runs now is the Colts' bane of existence not named MJD. Brady isn't stupid enough to take 5 to 7 step drops all night and hope his line can fend of Freeney and Mathis, that's just careless and idiotic. Their new short to intermediate passing game completely nullifies Freeney and Mathis by getting the ball out of Brady's hands quickly (except for that one sack Freeney had, which btw, was his first on Brady since 2004
). And while I won't say the Colts don't care about stopping the run, it's a proven fact that passing > running the ball with regards to winning games in the NFL. Letting BJE run all over them did nothing but play right into their hand and gave them a chance to play catch-up. If the Pats had stuck to their first half gameplan this probably would have been a slaughtering.3) This is one of the handful of games in Peyton's entire career you could put squarely on his shoulders for losing. All he had to do was not give the ball up at that point and at worst they would have tied it and gone to overtime. Factor in that he was hit while throwing and that play was just a disaster. His three interceptions were inexcusable and he admitted that much. But at the same time it's really hard to be pissed at a guy who is the reason for them being back in the game and the reason they lost. He's clearly won more games than he's lost, I don't think any sane person would argue this.
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Ah yes, he probably was talking about the Steelers-Patriots game...
I think this article pretty much sums it up: http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=10362
The Patriots transform their game when they play the Steelers more than possibly any other team transforms their game for any other team. They literally pass the ball 75% of the time, and for a 3-4 zone scheme without cornerbacks capable of shadowing and playing man coverage (with the exception, I suppose, of Ike Taylor), they will in fact be victimized by the dink and dunk. Luckily there are only three teams in the league truly capable of taking advantage of this, those being the Patriots, Colts and Saints. Tom Brady picked on William Gay all day and made Gronkowski look like an All-Pro. But aside from that, the Patriots were playing with a vengeance and with a disgust for their opponent. The Patriots don't like the Steelers, period. If it wasn't obvious before the game, watching Brady barking on the sidelines for missing a 3rd down pass and then taunting the crowd and spiking the ball after he called his own play to run into the endzone probably helped make it a bit more clear. But the outlier was the fact that they were made fools of the week before by the Browns. The same thing happened when the Browns played the Saints. Both of those teams took to the Steelers as a rebound. That's also what the Steelers just did to the Raiders.
And because the pass was so successful (and because the two starting DEs are still out with injuries), there were holes opening up in the running game. The Patriots actually put up over 100 yards rushing against the Steelers, and on only a comparatively small number of plays. Nobody was really on the ball for this game either. Nobody on the Steelers brought all they had to bring that day. It was like last year when the Browns embarrassed them. They just weren't there mentally. The fact that they even made a feeble attempt at a comeback in the fourth quarter surprised me, because I just didn't think they were in the game mentally.
The Patriots also caused Trai Essex to lose his starting job. He should have never had a starting job because he just doesn't have the talent, but he was so exposed during the game that Tomlin decided to bench him in favor of a second year undrafted tackle to play guard (though Essex too is naturally a tackle...). Jonathan Scott, making his first start at left tackle in replace of Max Starks after being put on IR, also was exposed, though not as badly because, with Kemo also out and Foster playing LG, the Steelers mostly ran right. And they got nothing done going that way either. Of course falling behind made them revert to the passing game and abandon the run.
And Bellichick used Crumpler to do the exact same thing on James Harrison as he did on Freeney this week. Brady had all day to throw sometimes, yet he only needed a second. The only time Brady got his jersey dirty was when he was running in for a touchdown. LeBeau was hesitant to call many blitzes, and it hurt them badly. Which is why this week he dialed up a ton of them, which resulted in six sacks. No pressure and comparatively mediocre defensive backs is all the Patriots need to have a great day.
It really bothers me that LeBeau doesn't change things up when the Steelers play certain opponents, or even just the Patriots, because we know what happens almost every time. The only consolation I take away from this game is the hope that it was a real kick in the ass. The Steelers have been 6-2 midway in each of the 4 years Tomlin has been the coach. In the first year, they went 4-4, losing 3 of the last four following an injury to Aaron Smith, with Polamalu having already been injured, and losing in the first round to the Jaguars. In 2008, with a relatively health defense, they went 6-2 and won the Super Bowl. Last year, with injuries to Aaron Smith and Troy Polamalu, they lost 5 in a row, then won their last 3, coming up just short of a playoff spot. The vast majority of the starting roster remembers that 5 game skid. That first loss after 6-2 left a real bad taste in their mouths and they knew they had to do everything to prevent that from happening again, so they took it out on the Raiders, on of the "surprise" teams that made them look bad last year.
I think this article pretty much sums it up: http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=10362
The Patriots transform their game when they play the Steelers more than possibly any other team transforms their game for any other team. They literally pass the ball 75% of the time, and for a 3-4 zone scheme without cornerbacks capable of shadowing and playing man coverage (with the exception, I suppose, of Ike Taylor), they will in fact be victimized by the dink and dunk. Luckily there are only three teams in the league truly capable of taking advantage of this, those being the Patriots, Colts and Saints. Tom Brady picked on William Gay all day and made Gronkowski look like an All-Pro. But aside from that, the Patriots were playing with a vengeance and with a disgust for their opponent. The Patriots don't like the Steelers, period. If it wasn't obvious before the game, watching Brady barking on the sidelines for missing a 3rd down pass and then taunting the crowd and spiking the ball after he called his own play to run into the endzone probably helped make it a bit more clear. But the outlier was the fact that they were made fools of the week before by the Browns. The same thing happened when the Browns played the Saints. Both of those teams took to the Steelers as a rebound. That's also what the Steelers just did to the Raiders.
And because the pass was so successful (and because the two starting DEs are still out with injuries), there were holes opening up in the running game. The Patriots actually put up over 100 yards rushing against the Steelers, and on only a comparatively small number of plays. Nobody was really on the ball for this game either. Nobody on the Steelers brought all they had to bring that day. It was like last year when the Browns embarrassed them. They just weren't there mentally. The fact that they even made a feeble attempt at a comeback in the fourth quarter surprised me, because I just didn't think they were in the game mentally.
The Patriots also caused Trai Essex to lose his starting job. He should have never had a starting job because he just doesn't have the talent, but he was so exposed during the game that Tomlin decided to bench him in favor of a second year undrafted tackle to play guard (though Essex too is naturally a tackle...). Jonathan Scott, making his first start at left tackle in replace of Max Starks after being put on IR, also was exposed, though not as badly because, with Kemo also out and Foster playing LG, the Steelers mostly ran right. And they got nothing done going that way either. Of course falling behind made them revert to the passing game and abandon the run.
And Bellichick used Crumpler to do the exact same thing on James Harrison as he did on Freeney this week. Brady had all day to throw sometimes, yet he only needed a second. The only time Brady got his jersey dirty was when he was running in for a touchdown. LeBeau was hesitant to call many blitzes, and it hurt them badly. Which is why this week he dialed up a ton of them, which resulted in six sacks. No pressure and comparatively mediocre defensive backs is all the Patriots need to have a great day.
It really bothers me that LeBeau doesn't change things up when the Steelers play certain opponents, or even just the Patriots, because we know what happens almost every time. The only consolation I take away from this game is the hope that it was a real kick in the ass. The Steelers have been 6-2 midway in each of the 4 years Tomlin has been the coach. In the first year, they went 4-4, losing 3 of the last four following an injury to Aaron Smith, with Polamalu having already been injured, and losing in the first round to the Jaguars. In 2008, with a relatively health defense, they went 6-2 and won the Super Bowl. Last year, with injuries to Aaron Smith and Troy Polamalu, they lost 5 in a row, then won their last 3, coming up just short of a playoff spot. The vast majority of the starting roster remembers that 5 game skid. That first loss after 6-2 left a real bad taste in their mouths and they knew they had to do everything to prevent that from happening again, so they took it out on the Raiders, on of the "surprise" teams that made them look bad last year.
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I wasn't necessarily commenting on the appropriateness of the fine. It was definitely an inexcusable action that deserves to be dealt with.
This was being discussed on the radio this morning (Mike and Mike) and they said he received the max penalty for fighting. Then they both went on to say that what happened was not just fighting. But I had to disagree to some extent. Fights on the field stem from one player taking some kind of shot at another player. From there, things elevate to varying degrees (including none), depending on the response. Well, that is exactly what happened here. I guess there is no time stipulation on when these things happen in relation to the play.
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