NFL 2010

I wasn't necessarily commenting on the appropriateness of the fine. It was definitely an inexcusable action that deserves to be dealt with.

This was being discussed on the radio this morning (Mike and Mike) and they said he received the max penalty for fighting. Then they both went on to say that what happened was not just fighting. But I had to disagree to some extent. Fights on the field stem from one player taking some kind of shot at another player. From there, things elevate to varying degrees (including none), depending on the response. Well, that is exactly what happened here. I guess there is no time stipulation on when these things happen in relation to the play.

Actually from what I understand he received the minimum penalty for a repeat offender. Also, there was no prior confrontation between Seymour and Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger actually said that Seymour should be a candidate for defensive mvp and generally acted like a schoolgirl when asked about Seymour before the game. Which does kind of make it more amusing that Seymour decided to palm thrust him in the jaw. I think Seymour got off very lightly, and I fail to understand why. Of course, if you read a Steeler forum, it's because Seymour is an ex-Patriot, the favorite sons of Goodell through his friendship with Kraft, and because Roethlisberger is a naughty boy and the Steelers hit too hard. Naturally I question that argument...but I still fail to understand the seemingly arbitrary nature of many of these fines. I have yet to hear anything about any other fines this week though.


Millen and Young get hostile in that segment somewhat frequently, haha. Young comes off as an antagonistic little pissant sometimes.
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nder-investigation-for-taping-49ers-practice/



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Jeff Legwold and Dave Kreiger of the Denver Post report that the league is looking into whether the Broncos recorded a San Fran walk-through practice at Wembley Stadium on October 30, the day before the two teams played there. On the 30th, each team had access to the venue for the session aimed at reviewing key portions of the game plan.

Per the Post, Broncos COO Joe Ellis confirmed that Broncos director of video operations Steve Scarnecchia is on a “personal leave of absence” as the NFL and the team investigate the situation.
 
True, he can hold a candle to the game's best coach. The coach he came from the same system. And everyone knows who I'm thinking about but won't talk since some ignorant King Drunkard post will come after it.
 
I was impressed with the Bears offense today. They really took advantage of the Eagles' inexperienced CBs by attacking the sidelines with the run and pass, and they gashed them for huge yards after the catch a few times. Lots more big plays then usual, but they also were efficient in that drive that went almost 10 minutes. Still, too many pass rushers were getting to the QB unblocked, and that's inevitably going to kill drives, if not lead to turnovers. Cutler was very sharp. When he only needs to drive 40-60 yards for a score, this offense can put up some points.

The defense did what they usually do, which is prevent big plays. This was a tough task against Philly. Six scores, but when four are FGs, you can overcome that. I think you'll see other teams that play the Eagles force them to dink and dunk. The Bears also tackle better than most teams, and they minimized penalties too. They're so much more disciplined than Green Bay, which has been the difference in the divisional race. I am not sure the Bears will hold them off, especially with a game remaining at GB, but I still like the Bears to win 10-11 games and get to the playoffs now. At Detroit and Minnesota should be wins, and I think they match up well with the Jets. Probably will lose to NE and at GB.
 
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Oh, and Brooks55, I was curious to hear your thoughts on how Tampa Bay played; from a fans perspective.

I know they only had 3 points the majority of the game but they were on the road to a very good home team.

How did they hold up?
 
Oh, and Brooks55, I was curious to hear your thoughts on how Tampa Bay played; from a fans perspective.

I know they only had 3 points the majority of the game but they were on the road to a very good home team.

How did they hold up?

Ugh, I'm still not over the loss yet. Our defense played very well other than blown coverage on the Heap TD. There was a huge PI call on Myron Lewis that was very suspect, I don't remember how many yards it was for, but it was a lot & set up the Ravens for their 2nd TD to go up 17-3 at the half. Also we lost Cody Grimm for the year, who had been playing like John Lynch Jr lately. Freeman had his worst game of the year. I think he was playing scared. He threw at least 3 bombs where the receivers had a couple steps on the DB's, but none of them were good throws. There were plenty of times where Freeman could have ran for a lot of yards, but he wouldn't do it. So we are 0-4 vs winning teams now. I think we can & will beat Atlanta at home next week. We won't be winning the division though, so a wild card is the only way we make it to the playoffs. Still the season has exceeded my expectations & I have been enjoying it a lot.
 
You play the Raiders.

Just sayin'... every game shows a team's character and ability. I don't think (I hope not) the Chargers will take the Raider's game any less serious than the Chiefs game. They already lost to both of them earlier this season. But you are correct: The Chiefs have been consistent and should be a good test for the Chargers.

It's hard to take it seriously that the Chargers are the most overrated team in the NFL when they are rated the #1 offense and #1 defense. Now I know those rankings are not a comprehensive guide to who is a better team than who, but the teams closer to #1 in those categories are there for reasons. Also they killed the Broncos after the Broncos killed the Chiefs, and they also dominated the Colts. Yes the Colts have a lot of injuries, but who doesn't? Indy's defense took away the deep threat, and SD was still able to dominate on D and win with the short pass and the run. SD beat the entire AFC South. They have been winning with no-name guys and without Antonio Gates. You can sing the praises of Peyton Manning when he makes second string guys look like stars, and rightly so, but Rivers and the Chargers are doing the same thing.
 
It's hard to take it seriously that the Chargers are the most overrated team in the NFL when they are rated the #1 offense and #1 defense. Now I know those rankings are not a comprehensive guide to who is a better team than who, but the teams closer to #1 in those categories are there for reasons. Also they killed the Broncos after the Broncos killed the Chiefs, and they also dominated the Colts. Yes the Colts have a lot of injuries, but who doesn't? Indy's defense took away the deep threat, and SD was still able to dominate on D and win with the short pass and the run. SD beat the entire AFC South. They have been winning with no-name guys and without Antonio Gates. You can sing the praises of Peyton Manning when he makes second string guys look like stars, and rightly so, but Rivers and the Chargers are doing the same thing.
Those "#1" ratings are precisely why the Chargers are overrated. Special teams matter. If your metrics don't count special teams, then your yardage measures are shot. Teams that get good kick and punt returns get fewer yards on offense due to short fields, and teams that leave the opposition with short fields after kicks will give up fewer yards on defense. Coaching matters too, and you don't find a lot people who will vouch for Norv Turner as an in-game head coach. And I just don't believe basic stats tell you a lot about football teams. Garbage yards at the ends of halves and games skew things (see Carson Palmer's stats; he still sucks. Every 3rd string running back can carry for 11 yards). Chicago was handing it to Philadelphia 31-13, but they got super conservative in the 4th, and that affected their defensive stats, and allowed Vick to pile up yards on dump passes that ended up killing the clock. This isn't baseball; stats aren't especially important.

The Colts are a bad comparison. For one, not every team is banged up so much. The Ravens, Jets, Falcons and Bears strike me as very healthy teams, off the top of my head. The Bears do not have anyone on the injury report this week, for example. And the Colts still had won more games without having the "#1" defense, or playing in a division that has been shit for most of the past few years. Ordinarily I'd be fine with the Chargers, but I don't think they have a difference-maker at RB, and I'm not sold on the defense. They got a TD on what should have been defensive holding, and that changed the whole game. It was a terrible missed call. And their kicker has routinely choked in the playoffs. Special teams matter.