skeptik
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Since Clark and Harrison are possibly the two worst offenders for illegal hits in the NFL, it's definitely possible there's something of a bias. But I can't feel any sympathy when there are guys who so blatantly try to injure opponents on that team. Karma, etc. How do you think the opponents of Pittsburgh have felt the past few years while those guys were spearing everyone? And they still won the game. In addition, I'm not sure the calls can be chalked up to much more than a home-team bias, which is seen everywhere every week, and bad luck/missed calls. Conspiracy is a stretch. At least this week. Anyone can have a tough week. I don't watch every Steelers game. I thought the Ravens should have tried the kick though. I know Flacco has a good record, but I think if you put him on St. Louis or Seattle or Oakland or Detroit he wouldn't impress anyone at all.
Ryan Clark has never been fined, so perhaps you should educate yourself beforehand. He had hits two+ years ago that would be illegal now, but I'm confident you can understand why that is irrelevant. The only personal foul called on Clark so far this year was an embarrassing call. He was called for a helmet to helmet hit on what was a shoulder to side contact. He was obviously flagged because the hit seemed to be pretty hard. There was no fine. And NFL officials have in the past apologized for flagging Clark when they shouldn't have.
The Steelers don't try to injure opponents, if you're referencing James Harrison's comments in which he distinguished between hurting an opponent and injuring an opponent. He said he never wants to injure an opponent, but he's trying to hurt him, by which he means effectively bruising an opponent and breaking his will. He doesn't want to give anybody a concussion or a broken leg or crack somebody's ribs, which seems to be what you're insinuating here. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to realize that referencing something like "karma" here is dumb as well.
As far as the calls go, I made it pretty clear that I don't care why the calls were missed, but they need to stop being missed. It is a bias regardless of whether or not it's intentional. You can't do this:
And you sure as fuck can NOT do this:
Can you seriously imagine Tom Brady being punched in the face like that or Tony Gonzalez taking a blow to the head like that and there being no flag? The referees are instructed to err on the side of safety. Does this mean that they have their flags in a holster when the Steelers play defense, but relax when Ben has the ball? It's becoming more and more difficult every week to justify not believing that. Even Terrell Suggs said he thinks the Steelers are being targeted. I think most people around here will probably remember that I'm the last person here to criticize officiating and give them the benefit of the doubt, but the changes in enforcement this season has led to a very sloppy transition, and it's gotten ugly.
And "those guys were spearing everyone"? I don't recall Asante Samuel or Rodney Harrison ever playing for the Steelers. The Steelers' reputation of being a dirty team is such a fucking crock of shit. Playing dirty is doing things deliberately. Even if somebody like James from time to time hits a quarterback the wrong way, it's not a deliberate, flagrant violation, but accidental.
Although, Krow, I do have to kind of agree with his comment on Flacco. He certainly does have a team around him. He's the only quarterback in NFL history to have 3 different receivers with 600 or more career catches at his disposal. Meanwhile, Ray Rice is one of the elite pass catching running backs in the league, and Todd Heap is a premiere tight end. The Ravens are also by far one of the healthier teams in the league this year. I do feel that Flacco sometimes gets more credit than he deserves.