"Nobody really cared for OPETH until we did Blackwater Park"

[saut]

actually GR feels like the album opeth has been striving to do their whole career. do you seriously think a record label would pressure them into putting MORE prog parts in?

 

[biggsy]

I like the old era of opeth.. i knew them with orchid and i like it. Morningrise i like more than Orchid... MAYH i like too, even SL is a great album... but BWP ... i don't like it. (deliverance is a great album, but GR for me ... really bad)

I prefer to remember the good times of opeth...when nobody knows them and opeth did really good music with a real feeling and essence without pressure from the labels or the extra big tour to accomplish ... not like GR

man if you think hours of wealth has no feeling or essence in it then you are on many many drugs. listen to it again.

 

[Manbient]

I first heard Opeth when My Arms Your Hearse came out, they were already pretty big in the metal community by word of mouth, but I can understand Mikael's point. For the band it is important to tour and have good label support, for the fan its all about the music.

really? It was right before the release of Still Life that i caught word of them, and i was always looking for people to discuss the band with on the net. It took me quite a while to find a place (i remember there being a small forum on opeth.com before it moved to ultimate metal). Maybe i just suck at searching hehe

 

[Allfader]

man if you think hours of wealth has no feeling or essence in it then you are on many many drugs. listen to it again.

any older song of Opeth had a lot more feeling and essence than any of GR... Houus of Wealth is "another song" of a album that has no so much to offer...
when I hear face of melinda, credence or benighted I understand and feel the essence of Opeth... Listening Morningrise, mayh, SL or orchid is another world from BWP.

listen up Forest of October, The Night and the Silent Water, To Bid you Farewell, When (or April Ethereal) or any song before 2001 and you'll understand what I'm saying

 

[Hlfreak]

any older song of Opeth had a lot more feeling and essence than any of GR... Houus of Wealth is "another song" of a album that has no so much to offer...
when I hear face of melinda, credence or benighted I understand and feel the essence of Opeth... Listening Morningrise, mayh, SL or orchid is another world from BWP.

listen up Forest of October, The Night and the Silent Water, To Bid you Farewell, When (or April Ethereal) or any song before 2001 and you'll understand what I'm saying

Nope, still don't understand what your saying. Ghost of Perdition slaughters most of those songs.

 

[phagist_]

Dude they have a different feeling. They all have feeling but in an atmospheric way. Hours of Wealth is just raw emotion... just Mike and his guitar, and it is that simplicity that makes the song so beatiful.

 

[MetalManCPA]

Nope, still don't understand what your saying. Ghost of Perdition slaughters most of those songs.

Actually (in my opinion), Ghost of Perdition slaughters every song by any band. Obviously it's my #1 favorite song by any band.

 

[FuneralPortrait]

IMO the later stuff shows more emotion and appeals to me, in general, more than the early albums. I like almost all of their recorded music though, which is why they're one of my favourite bands

 

[biggsy]

Dude they have a different feeling. They all have feeling but in an atmospheric way. Hours of Wealth is just raw emotion... just Mike and his guitar, and it is that simplicity that makes the song so beatiful.

absolutely spot on my friend

 

[dcat]

^ +1

I didn't discover Opeth until the BWP era, my first intro to Opeth was "The Drapery Falls (Edit)" track I found on a rock mag freebie CD...

Fecking Awesome song, now I have all of Opeths CD's and DVD, my regret is not finding out about them earlier and not seeing them live more often performing the pre BWP material although I have now enjoyed alot of it heard live recently.

I think this is true for most of Opeth's later disciples, I tell everyone about them whenever I can.

A message for Spectacular Views...

Get a good Hi-Fi or go see an Opeth live show...

Most indie pap is lightweight whinging and it sucks, heheh.

 

[all_sins_undone]

The drapery falls poons all newbs

 

[opeth8]

I've cared for Opeth, since 1st hearing their music. Unfortunately, it wasn't until Deliverance that I discovered them.

Spent many yrs listening to American metal (Thrash, Nu-Metal, Goth, etc...) & yes lots of hip-hop. Now I'm mostly a metal head & loving the euro scene. Opeth ranks #1 on my list. They are the most impressive band I've yet to discover.

 

[FRUGiHOYi]

I discovered Opeth when Blackwater Park came out. Everyone on the interweb was talking about them so I ended up downloading The Night and the Silent Water and I was in awe. I downloaded more and more tracks and then started buying the albums. The end.

 

[Don Corleone]

Dude they have a different feeling.

you said it.

i can very easily understand why someone would love the earlier records but if we're speaking of musical integrity, strength, good lyrics etc., it's still opeth! but yes, with a different feeling.

 

[Don Corleone]

and isnt that called progression, anyway?

 

[NFU]

The drapery falls poons all newbs

ironic, since thats like the opeth noob anthem...

 

[opeth_353]

ironic, since thats like the opeth noob anthem...

lol, twas what i was thinking!

.. tbh.. i'm surprised this thread has managed to get 3 pages..

 

[MegaMoose]

Probably only because Mike posted.

 

[Austere]

The first time I heard Opeth was on a heavy metal/hard rock compilation. The song was "Benighted" (it was weird to me that an all acoustic song was on a metal compilation at the time, until I bought "Still Life" and realized it was the shortest track at five minutes by about two minutes). I immediately went out and got "Still Life" because Opeth stood out by far from anything else on that compilation, and "Still Life" is probably still my favourite (this is probably just sentiment as it's my first Opeth memory, I was so excited that I "discovered" them). Here in Australia, because we don't really have a major metal "scene", publications, radio, specialised metal stores, etc., you pretty much rely on word-of-mouth and have to really look for new bands.

But enough of me crapping on (I'm new here, I have a lot to say and have missed a lot of threads), in regard to Mikael's comment, yeah sure, I can see where he is coming from. "Drapery Falls" (an edited version anyway) was their first single, the album had a producer known outside of metal circles, etc. Although I have noticed, even the newer fans who discovered Opeth post-"BWP" still love the older stuff just as much and wish they had found out earlier.

That's the great thing about Opeth and why they haven't fizzled out like, for example Dream Theatre (I do like DT, they are one trick ponies, but they are great at what they do). Opeth's catalogue is so varied and has evolved so that every album is so different and challenging to listen to. Each album has something different and fresh. And that whole "Roadrunner" arguement is so old.

 

[Dän]

I didn't find out about Opeth until after Deliverance came out... But their older material is great.

yeh same here, i had never even heard of them until that release
but now my fav album of theirs is definately orchid. Its probably the only opeth album i can listen form start to finish