Nu-metal and Metalcore, are they Metal?

[Attilio II]

*inspired by the Slipknot thread

they're either sub-genres of metal or their own, distinctive genre.

and if Nu-metal is a sub-genre, then sadly yes, Slipknot is metal.

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

the answer is no... there not...

 

[IWP]

5-10 pages

 

[Vitor]

nu metal = never

metalcore = of course

 

[Mort Divine]

nu metal = never

metalcore = of course

.

 

[rfe]

Being that Metalcore is pretty much a crossover of New York styled hardcore and punk, with metallic elements thrown in, I wouldn't call them entirely metal, but there are metal elements in them. In the early scene, they weren't really metal. However, later, Metalcore began humping the shit out of At The Gates and In Flames, which gave them more of a metal edge. Over all, Metalcore is half-metal.

Nu-Metal, on the other hand, is not metal because it's origins come from funk, groove, and grunge rock, with rap elements thrown in. Then metal elements got thrown in the can, and Nu-Metal was born. Still, it focuses on groove and funk, and the heaviness of rock, rather than being metal. Nu-Metal is not metal.

 

[Attilio II]

I bet it's harder to answer what makes metal metal, than what makes nu-metal different.

 

[Vitor]

I bet it's harder to answer what makes metal metal, than what makes nu-metal different.

the people that listens to.

there is a big difference between people that listen metal and nu-shit-metal

 

[Gold]

metalcore is definitly metal

nu-metal is debateable, i think some bands like slipknot should be considered metal, while linkin park and limp bizket shouldn't

 

[DigToChina]

Being that Metalcore is pretty much a crossover of New York styled hardcore and punk, with metallic elements thrown in, I wouldn't call them entirely metal, but there are metal elements in them. In the early scene, they weren't really metal. However, later, Metalcore began humping the shit out of At The Gates and In Flames, which gave them more of a metal edge. Over all, Metalcore is half-metal.

If we follow that train of thought then traditional thrash metal is only half metal too since it's practically hardcore punk (in subject matter) :[

 

[Attilio II]

the people that listens to.

there is a big difference between people that listen metal and nu-shit-metal

haha true. all the nu-metal kids are trashy, uneducated mutants with no real interest in history, mythology, or the unknown.
they'd rather hear rage-filled songs about rage and get angry.

 

[Vitor]

haha true. all the nu-metal kids are trashy, uneducated mutants with no real interest in history, mythology, or the unknown.
they'd rather hear rage-filled songs about rage and get angry.

 

[rfe]

If we follow that train of thought then traditional thrash metal is only half metal too since it's practically hardcore punk (in subject matter) :[

Hmm, good point.

 

[Alongside Death]

If nu-metal isn't metal then why the fuck is it called nu-metal? It should be named rockrap.

 

[~Derek~]

Metalcore, yes, Nu Metal, depends, I consider early Mudvayne and Slipknot Metal, but Limp Bizkit sounds a lot like rap music with a rock background, same thing with PoD.

 

[Satanstoenail]

If nu-metal isn't metal then why the fuck is it called nu-metal? It should be named rockrap.

My god you're right. It's got a much better ring to it as well...

 

[Alongside Death]

I don't know if you agree with me or if you laugh (in a bad way) of my "rockrap" sentence.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Nope. Neither one. Nu-metal is poorly done hard rock, and metalcore is poorly done cat slaughter with forty fucking breakdowns in every song.

 

[Zephyrus]

Nu-metal minus Slipknot = No

Metalcore = Yes

 

[blackmage]

metalcore is faker then pamela anderson's tits