Opeth - why labeled as black metal?
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Ermz
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No man, they're Melinda Metal, or why not Mist Metal, or why not Demon Metal, or hey they can be Mikael metal.
Episteme
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Does anyone else think this thread is becoming really stupid and pointless. Opeth are Opeth. They define a genre of their own.
Mr. Shred-ididle
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this is getting really stupid now. Sinse when does a thread about someone wondering why Opeth is sometimes labled black metal come to how punk/hardcore influenced thrash or the reverse? C'mon, thats getting out of hand.
FretsAflame
Undercover Shredder
Mr. Shred-ididle said:
I don't even know, i felt the urge to stab him but all i could do was post...please forgive me...
That's the thing, they may have sounded like them production wise, maybe because Orchid and Morningrise were kind of raw, but musically they resemble no bands. They are hard to pin down into a genre, but I guess the whole black metal label was because of the vocals on Orchid, along with them being on Century Black.Spike said:
And this is what I essentially used to think... but when you podner it some more, you'll realise that this line of thought is more than a little silly to......xxChaoticManifestoxx said:
I mean, what's the point of having a bands genre defined..... by the band?
We may as well not have genre's at all at that point.
I'd still say your argument is 'more valid' than may others in this thread though.
plattopus
Gravity Eyelids
EDIT: wow aren't I a spastic... I didn't see that it was 3 pages long. Ah fuck it.
If you just look at the music without the vocals, Opeth are (currently at least) a progressive metal band. The complex song structures, guitar solos, etc as well as the sonics of their music (not just repetitive bashing) would put them squarely into that genre.
However, the vocals come in and screw everything up as far as labels are concerned. Generally, growly vocals are considered part of death metal, so usually any band that uses this vocal style are automatically (and often erroneously) classified as death metal. With Opeth it's not really the case...
When I describe them to people who don't know them, I say "progressive metal with half-growly/half-clean vocals".
If you just look at the music without the vocals, Opeth are (currently at least) a progressive metal band. The complex song structures, guitar solos, etc as well as the sonics of their music (not just repetitive bashing) would put them squarely into that genre.
However, the vocals come in and screw everything up as far as labels are concerned. Generally, growly vocals are considered part of death metal, so usually any band that uses this vocal style are automatically (and often erroneously) classified as death metal. With Opeth it's not really the case...
When I describe them to people who don't know them, I say "progressive metal with half-growly/half-clean vocals".
No, you've got it all wrong; Opeth are neo-classical pseudo-progressive black metal tinged brutal melodic wintry frostbitten forest metalcore. And don't any of you forget it.
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seriously though, I've never understood why people call Opeth "black metal"
*shrug*
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seriously though, I've never understood why people call Opeth "black metal"
*shrug*
Demilich
Remember
people... is Dan Swanö's "Moontower" album a death metal album? Most would say no, though the vocals are mostly growled (and well, at that!). The tonnes of key/synths as well as the style of music played tends to lead toward this being labelled as a progressive rock/metal album. Similarly, a lot of Opeth's music is not in any way similar to that which is characteristic of the death metal genre. If anything, let's call it melodic progressive extreme metal with growled vocals.
.. or not
who cares?
point is: Moontower owns, get it NOW!
.. or not
who cares?
point is: Moontower owns, get it NOW!
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