pet-peeves GO!
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monolithsound
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my biggest pet peeve is passing the buck...
IOW, being thrown under the bus for the problems and extra time caused by some fucktard's shit tracking, when i'm only mixing... and making the whole turd-fest sound great, no less.
this has happened a couple times, but i've learned to speak up... early... about the problems in the tracking, and the time and effort i'll need to put in to fix them.
this is really hard to do though when the shite tracking was done by someone in the band... their tendency is often to just point the finger at the mixer when the label asks why it's taking longer than expected, rather than just nutting up and admitting, "well my tracking wasn't that good so it's taking a lot more work to salvage a good mix, but thankfully the mixer is willing to put that time in".
no, they most often never say ANYTHING like that..... usually they just play dumb, even though they know perfectly well what the issues are, and will just default automatically to throwing the mixer under the bus... criticizing the very guy that's saving their asses, in the interest of saving face for themselves as tracking engineers, even though no one even cares about that... certainly not the label, since they signed a band and NOT a tracking engineer.
IOW, being thrown under the bus for the problems and extra time caused by some fucktard's shit tracking, when i'm only mixing... and making the whole turd-fest sound great, no less.
this has happened a couple times, but i've learned to speak up... early... about the problems in the tracking, and the time and effort i'll need to put in to fix them.
this is really hard to do though when the shite tracking was done by someone in the band... their tendency is often to just point the finger at the mixer when the label asks why it's taking longer than expected, rather than just nutting up and admitting, "well my tracking wasn't that good so it's taking a lot more work to salvage a good mix, but thankfully the mixer is willing to put that time in".
no, they most often never say ANYTHING like that..... usually they just play dumb, even though they know perfectly well what the issues are, and will just default automatically to throwing the mixer under the bus... criticizing the very guy that's saving their asses, in the interest of saving face for themselves as tracking engineers, even though no one even cares about that... certainly not the label, since they signed a band and NOT a tracking engineer.
oh i also hate it when people are like, "this next part is sick listen to it, oh and this part, and this part"
by the time they're done spouting off about everything, the song is over and you never got to hear any of the parts they were talking about.
the music speaks for its-self dumbass!
by the time they're done spouting off about everything, the song is over and you never got to hear any of the parts they were talking about.
the music speaks for its-self dumbass!
stuff like this definitely gets under my skin. the whole business can be pretty shit, especially in situations like this. i had a band try to gain back some of their recording budget because a few days went missing from their original schedule (it was booked like 6 months in advance, things are bound to change by a day or two). when i went back and traced every email, it turns out they were very wrong... in fact they owed me money because lodging was never mentioned in the quote!
drew_drummer
Dancefap
1. Engineers that post on forums about how much musicians piss them off. OKAY! I GET IT! YOU HAVE NO PATIENCEZZ!
In fact, no .. skip that. Engineers in general. They should all just die.
In fact, no .. skip that. Engineers in general. They should all just die.
You should watch me in a session. I am made of patience. Even though I am here yelling about all of this stuff, I never show it during a session. It would be unprofessional. Unless there is a real serious problem that is damaging the task at hand, then whatever the cause is dealt with as politely as possible.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Yeah, definitely. Same goes to every store clerk that has a difficult customer every now and then and doesn't enjoy it. And every accountant who gets frustrated after explaining a simple thing to his client for the fifth time. And every single person that gets pissed off in their profession every now and then.
I hope you were kidding.
1. what drives me crazy : drummers setting up his kit saying : i wanna hear my shell set. - exactly how it sounds. i dont want samplereplacement !
((although we discussed that topic when they hired me and i made clear that i will most likely sample replace the whole kit ((because it will probably sound like shit!!!))
2. guitar players while preparing for tracking saying : i dont want your axe fx sound, i wanna hear MY AMP... no digital amp modellers please.
((although we discussed that topic when they hired me.....))
3. everyone is fine with the end product after listening to the final master, but one of the people goes : its all cool - but cant you make the recording LOUDER?????
(and were already at -5 db rms....)
((although we discussed that topic when they hired me and i made clear that i will most likely sample replace the whole kit ((because it will probably sound like shit!!!))
2. guitar players while preparing for tracking saying : i dont want your axe fx sound, i wanna hear MY AMP... no digital amp modellers please.
((although we discussed that topic when they hired me.....))
3. everyone is fine with the end product after listening to the final master, but one of the people goes : its all cool - but cant you make the recording LOUDER?????
(and were already at -5 db rms....)
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Exactly. It's a lot better to vent a bit on a forum than to be an unpolite and unprofessional dick to a client.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Oh, and another one: Endless recalls. When the mixes are given the green light, that's it. They're done, they were accepted by everyone, no, I won't raise the snare just a bit, bounce the tracks, compile a new master, burn it and send it without getting paid for it.
...aaand yet I still do so every now and then. No-one to blame there but me.
...aaand yet I still do so every now and then. No-one to blame there but me.
next time you get the "can we get it louder" thing, you can open the songs in itunes and go to the song's properties and change the volume
it will make that song play back louder than the rest of the songs in their library
if they're in the room, then make a master that's at -11 RMS and crank your monitors up. it will sound louder than anything they've ever heard because the headroom will allow shit to ROCK instead of brickwalling the punchiness.
PhilTheBeard
"The Beard"
Probably while tracking and you go to do the next take and the dude your tracking is texting not even paying any attention to what's going on.
yeah, this is what i was referring to when i said cellphones.
the ipad is no different. some of my clients already have them, and are browsing the web, watching videos (ipads are actually pretty loud!) and all kinds of non-sense while tracking. sometimes for fun i turn my wifi off, haha. and then there's poor service out here so without service AND wifi, they start to focus a bit...
but sometimes focus will just shift to "WHY IS MY SHIT NOT WORKING!"
JayB
Member
Pedro Teixeira
Member
That is the woorsstt. Once I had an album completely done, everyone was happy with it, so I sent them the Master CD and after like a week one of them phones me saying the drummer changed his mind and wanted a different snare sample... What?!? Do they really think switching samples is just choosing a different WAV and that's it? It'd have to be remixed again to have everything fit! In the end they obviously didnt get the new snare due to additional costs lol
JayB
Member
What the fuck? I suppose you guys won't be a returning customer
Haha definitely not , in fact those experiences (recorded there a few times with different bands... no other halfway decent studios around) inspired me to pay thousands of dollars to start doing this shit myself... lol
