Recabinet

[Aaron Smith]

Hey Shane, is there any kind of compatibility with the Waves IR-L? I'm running Pro Tools 7.4 on OSX and I'm not entirely sure what host plug-in I could use your impulses in, it looks like those two free ones you list are just for PC. I have to be honest, I've never even used an impulse before, but I'm warming up to the idea.

 

[DominikJW]

Man, I actually think this is great, and your style is very unique. This is some seriously tight playing and some crazy math going on!!!

What preamp or ampsim did you use?

Thanks for the good words man! I used the Juicy77 (boosted w. TSS) and Dirthead free vst's, impulses loaded thru Kefir.

 

[Kazrog]

Hey Shane, is there any kind of compatibility with the Waves IR-L? I'm running Pro Tools 7.4 on OSX and I'm not entirely sure what host plug-in I could use your impulses in, it looks like those two free ones you list are just for PC. I have to be honest, I've never even used an impulse before, but I'm warming up to the idea.

I'm a Mac guy myself. Recabinet was developed with Altiverb in OS X, and works in a variety of OS X convolution plugins. See the list of officially supported apps most of the way down the page here. This list can and will grow with time and testing.

I've not had the opportunity to test in Waves IR-L, but I assume the "Other Hosts" version of the demo impulses should work. Give them a try and see how it goes. I've also heard that LAConvolver works with the Recabinet demo, but haven't had a chance to test it yet either.

 

[devouredremains]

I just tested IR-L and it works perfectly.

IR-L requires 4 channels so you will have to load the impulse four times in the open dialog box. After the impulses are loaded turn the direct button on.

The impulses sound great through IR-L. Due to having to load the impulses four times I'm thinking you could blend cabinets within IR-L but I have not tested that yet. I'll have some free time tomorrow afternoon to do so.

 

[Aaron Smith]

I just tested IR-L and it works perfectly.

IR-L requires 4 channels so you will have to load the impulse four times in the open dialog box. After the impulses are loaded turn the direct button on.

The impulses sound great through IR-L. Due to having to load the impulses four times I'm thinking you could blend cabinets within IR-L but I have not tested that yet. I'll have some free time tomorrow afternoon to do so.

Cool, thanks dude. Here's another question (for anyone): what kind of power soak should I look at for using my tube amps? The THD Hot Plate is something I've known about for quite a while, but it looks like I would have to commit to buying a certain ohm load and then always running my amps at that load. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I feel like I need a bit more guidance before I fork out the cash for a power soak!

 

[Oligopod]

Here's my quick test with the updated Recabinet impulses. Not as good as the other stuff posted here, but I figured another sample couldn't hurt

http://oligopod.me.uk/music/03-08.mp3

I used Wagner MKII for the preamp, and the Ghandi 4x12 57 cap impulses - two tracks with the 6L6 and two with EL34.

Really liked the impulses, what's good is that I can setup Wagner as I would do on real amp. With other impulses I have to set the bass really low to get something usable.

 

[symphonicmind]

Here's my quick test with the updated Recabinet impulses. Not as good as the other stuff posted here, but I figured another sample couldn't hurt

http://oligopod.me.uk/music/03-08.mp3

I used Wagner MKII for the preamp, and the Ghandi 4x12 57 cap impulses - two tracks with the 6L6 and two with EL34.

Really liked the impulses, what's good is that I can setup Wagner as I would do on real amp. With other impulses I have to set the bass really low to get something usable.

Sound great! especially with double tracking!

 

[The-Zeronaut]

I was going for a grainy/dirty/overgained tone but I have no idea if it sounds useful or not
http://www.keinezeit.de/tonetest/recabinet_test1.mp3

I fucked up the "mastering" but you get the idea, I'm too lazy (and drunk!) to fix this tone test after all

AWESOME TONE

what did you use?

 

[nwright]

Wow, that sounds amazing!

The Damien cabinet is a Marshall 1936 2x12.

PS - Emprodukt - your clip is awesome too!!!

doh, I used the 4x12 cab model, Ghandi, NOT Damien. Damien is on my mind, but I used the Ghandi 4x12.

Sorry.

 

[nwright]

Cool, thanks dude. Here's another question (for anyone): what kind of power soak should I look at for using my tube amps? The THD Hot Plate is something I've known about for quite a while, but it looks like I would have to commit to buying a certain ohm load and then always running my amps at that load. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I feel like I need a bit more guidance before I fork out the cash for a power soak!

Are you looking to buy one strictly to make the recording silent?

As long as you have a cabinet hooked up to the amp, you wouldn't need a power soak. This would mean, of course, that for some amps you'd have to have a space you could have the cabinet blaring.

I used my XXX on the clip I posted, and I had the channel volume on the Crunch channel all the way up, but my master volume was all the way down. I could just barely hear the sound from the cab, it was definitely under "TV volume" levels. I would imagine you could do pretty much the same with any master volume amp.

For the 6505/5150, though, I know I'll have to have the post gain up a bit to get the signal level high enough to work since they don't have a master volume.

 

[Metaltastic]

Are you looking to buy one strictly to make the recording silent?

As long as you have a cabinet hooked up to the amp, you wouldn't need a power soak. This would mean, of course, that for some amps you'd have to have a space you could have the cabinet blaring.

I used my XXX on the clip I posted, and I had the channel volume on the Crunch channel all the way up, but my master volume was all the way down. I could just barely hear the sound from the cab, it was definitely under "TV volume" levels. I would imagine you could do pretty much the same with any master volume amp.

For the 6505/5150, though, I know I'll have to have the post gain up a bit to get the signal level high enough to work since they don't have a master volume.

Yep, +1 to all of that, master volume amps rule for impulsage

 

[abyssofdreams]

Woaaah, thanks for the feedback guys!!!
Amazing what one can do once drunk

What's the preamp here, and which IR's from the demo did you use?

Pre is Revalver MKIII, 6505 on the green channel, the only thing I did different this time on the settings was that I raised the input voltage to 3.5v. I found that for my pickup constellation (85 bridge, 81 neck) it's the perfect amount of gain with the pubs far away from the strings to get it extra punchy.

IR was Ghandi 4x12 6L6 57 cap grill.wav, quadtracked.

Yeah man that's quite impressive. Nice work there. Is this with the 1.02 version?

Haha, nice to hear that from you! That means a lot to me
Yupp, 1.02.

For the first time ever I feel that this clip translates quite good to my car, my home stereo, my headphones and stuff but those drums are kinda very nasty in the highs, gonna fix that with the next clip

Shane, I love these impulses. So much stuff to play around with!
I'm gonna buy this straight away once it's out

Just one thing I noticed when comparing to records is that the impulses lack some bite around the 4k-6k area, anyone else noticed that? Could be the lack of new strings though

 

[Ermz]

They do seem a bit on the dull side, but you could also be noting an inherent flaw in Revalver MK III there as well. My experiences with Revalver have all pointed toward too much boxy low-mid as the core of the tone and not enough up in the higher mid areas where guitar tones commonly sit on records.

I'd love to try these impulses with some of the hardcore amps I use in the studio, but until I upgrade my system here at home, it's a no go. In the future though, if there is still quality to be gained, I'll try to get on top of it.

 

[cobhc]

I can't load these into Altiverb I get this error in PT M-Powered.

 

[Metaltastic]

Eek, internet explorer windows minimized in Vista OH THE HORROR!!!!

 

[abyssofdreams]

They do seem a bit on the dull side, but you could also be noting an inherent flaw in Revalver MK III there as well. My experiences with Revalver have all pointed toward too much boxy low-mid as the core of the tone and not enough up in the higher mid areas where guitar tones commonly sit on records.

Absolutely! But I'm trying to work around it, I also observed this with the Guitarhack impulses which I tried with my 5150 at my rehearsal place and in direct comparison they did sound brighter, more clear without sounding harsh.

Granted, I did roll off up to 8k on the highs as I wanted to get rid of that nasty fizz in Revalver, another core problem on this program but for demo stuff it's quite ok.

 

[Ben Johnson]

I'm trying Altiverb, and I re-scanned the impulse directory so they'll show up in the IR browser. But when I click the "Recabinet Demo Altiverb" folder in Altiverb's GUI, it doesn't expand to show the folder's contents, so I'm not able to select any IR. Any ideas?

 

[Temps]

Yep, +1 to all of that, master volume amps rule for impulsage

You might be able to just not turn it on all the way. for my Invader, I don't flip the standby switch and just do my recording with only the power on.

 

[JeffTD]

You might be able to just not turn it on all the way. for my Invader, I don't flip the standby switch and just do my recording with only the power on.

That's an ENGL-only feature, really. They allow the preamp signal to still pass through while the amp is on standby, in case the powertubes fail and you need to slave it into another amp.

 

[Temps]

Tweaked my recabi test quite a bit
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7024081
The guitars are unnaturally fat I think, but I love the tone I'm getting out of this thing