Recabinet

[Kazrog]

If you're having problems in Altiverb, make sure you are running Altiverb 6.2.0 or higher (I think there is a 6.2.1 update that specifically fixes a Windows issue.)

Just get the updater here:

http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/AltiverbDownload.html

Also make sure you are using a mono instance of Altiverb on a mono track (very important!) These impulses are of course, mono, since they are each based on a single mic.

Thanks for the awesome clips, guys!

 

[abyssofdreams]

Okay, I tried to work around those dull sounding guitars, didn't rerecord but EQ'd them to hell and back, now it's more obvious that there's too much gain but it's fucking loud now

http://www.keinezeit.de/tonetest/recabinet_test_remix.mp3

And yupp, there's audible distortion @10.5 RMS average, I have no clue how you guys get such loud levels without any distortion going on...

 

[Ermz]

The distortion is likely coming from too much 2 to 3k content in the guitars. Went a bit crazy on the high mid boost, eh?

 

[CatharsisStudios]

!! what was your chain and your setting on the XXX on that

new version sounds great, and the volume differences going from Boogex to SIR are gone...Sounds great, really does.

What cab is the Ghandi 4x12 modeling? I can't find if you've stated that in the past...Anywho, here's a clip. I used this track to compare my miked tones with the recabinet stuff. When I recorded, I took a line out to test with this stuff in addition to my miked tones...Gets pretty close.

here's the recabinet version:
http://geetarguy.tripod.com/recabtest.mp3

And, the original miked version:
http://geetarguy.tripod.com/newsong1.mp3

EDIT

This is the Ghandi 4x12 here.


They are mastered different, so it's not a great comparison, but you can get the idea of the difference in miked vs. recab'd tones.

 

[hoehlentroll]

If you're having problems in Altiverb, make sure you are running Altiverb 6.2.0 or higher (I think there is a 6.2.1 update that specifically fixes a Windows issue.)

Just get the updater here:

http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/AltiverbDownload.html

I bet that won't work for some of us, for known reasons :Smug:

 

[cobhc]

I just loaded the normal impulses into Altiverb as Shane advised.

 

[nwright]

!! what was your chain and your setting on the XXX on that

ESP Viper with EMG81 @ 18volts into a Maxon OD808 into the Crunch channel on the XXX.

I ran the channel volum all the way up, master was around 3 for the miked tones. Cabinet was miked with a single 57 on the edge of the cone with an SM57.

Going off memory, I wanna say the settings were:

Hair - 1:00
Body - 10:30
Bottom - 2:00
Gain - 11:00

Of course, for the recabinet version, I used the preamp output of the XXX straight into my Firepod and applied he impulse to the track using SIR.

 

[cobhc]

nwright, when you say preamp output, do you mean the fx send? because the lineout is after the poweramp is it not?

 

[Metaltastic]

Actually, I don't think so - it's a preamp out on the JSX, anyway...

 

[cobhc]

Just looked at the manual and the line out is described as:-

"This 1/4" mono (TS) jack provides a post-power amp signal to drive another power amp/speaker system while maintaining the amplifier’s tone."

So yeah, it's after the power amp.

 

[nwright]

I used the effects send on the XXX. I don't know about the line out thing. I'd assume that would be the same, though, with perhaps a differently tonality if the power tubes are effecting the sound, I don't get how that would work though since it's not a speaker output, nor a preamp output...I wonder how the power tubes effect this tone on a line level out...

 

[cobhc]

I dunno, all I know is that my Peavey Classic 50/50 poweramp has a line out as well.

 

[nwright]

I may have to experiment with that some more. When I did this clip originally, my goal was to find a miked tone that I felt competed with the tone I was getting using the preamp of the XXX with GH's impulses. For this purpose, I actually like my miked tone better, but I think I could get similar results using Recabinet and some EQ tweaks. The time I spent just getting that miked tone was loooong. Using the impulses would definitely make my life better!

 

[hoehlentroll]

Tweaked my recabi test quite a bit
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7024081
The guitars are unnaturally fat I think, but I love the tone I'm getting out of this thing

dude you're complaining on a high level

 

[Noumenon]

ESP Viper with EMG81 @ 18volts into a Maxon OD808 into the Crunch channel on the XXX.

I ran the channel volum all the way up, master was around 3 for the miked tones. Cabinet was miked with a single 57 on the edge of the cone with an SM57.

Going off memory, I wanna say the settings were:

Hair - 1:00
Body - 10:30
Bottom - 2:00
Gain - 11:00

Of course, for the recabinet version, I used the preamp output of the XXX straight into my Firepod and applied he impulse to the track using SIR.

11?!? I never put mine past 9.30 :S

 

[nwright]

11?!? I never put mine past 9.30 :S

It might have been less, I really can't remember. I know it wasn't any more than 11:00. I also have the OD808 going, so yeah, there's a good amount of gain on the clips.

Oh well, sounds good enough to me.

 

[Temps]

dude you're complaining on a high level

What's that mean?
I think they just sound super fat because I can never find that magic mic position that gives me the tone I'm getting with Recabinet

 

[Agonal]

whoa i gotta say these impulses are really great. I tried these out on a recent track i am working on. Guitars direct with ENGL Powerball V2. And they are way better than ANY impulses I have ever heard. The way they sit in the mix is perfect they never get lost. I used the 6l6 57 edge grill Ghandi 412 with SIRII. One thing of concern though. I have a quad tracked section and i tried different mic position than edge grill on the quads and it didn't quite sound right. Also I loved the Ghandi 412 I am wondering if your impulse pack can contain anything better than whats in the demo. Great job though Shane these are definitely worth paying for.

 

[Ermz]

Have you guys found these to be generally lacking a lot of high-end content? I find myself doing some quite intense boosts where I otherwise wouldn't. I still can't get them sitting the way I want.

 

[Temps]

Have you guys found these to be generally lacking a lot of high-end content? I find myself doing some quite intense boosts where I otherwise wouldn't. I still can't get them sitting the way I want.

I had a huge boost on mine as well, no matter which mic position I use.