Resurrected Power Metal Thread

[Element_man]

Fuckin' awesome band. Unfortunately, they don't get as much love around here as I would like. I think they kick fuckin' ass, they're totally different than most Finnish power metal. The new album is amazing.

I agree 100%. They manage to take influences and stylings from so many other brances of metal and music in general, but yet stya true to the heroic power metal sound. I love them, the new album is definately killer! I wish they're bring back a bit more of the folkiness from their EPs and 'the Spirit of Ukko' though, but that's just me.

 

[Mort Divine]

The new album has terrible production.

 

[mutantllama]

Raw power metal. lolol

 

[MetalAges]

Do not listen to that band. Fucking thiefs. They ripped off - and I don't mean like there is a similarity, they were the same fuckin' lyrics - I mean STOLE LYRICS from Pain of Salvation.

Andy explained the deal with this, and it was pretty honest.

I've met him since, and I have to say he is one of the most sincere, real and honest dudes I've ever met. Class act guy and I tend to believe his explanation (too lazy to google it).

 

[Mort Divine]

There is not a single legitimate excuse for stealing a bands lyrics.

His response was full of bullshit anyways. Yes he admitted to it, but his explanation as to how it happened is a bunch of shit. Slight similarities sure, but lines taken almost word for word from Pain of Salvation songs. Hah! Hardly likely.

Within the last days, we received again some deranged e-Mails from fans regarding the “extremely parallels in the lyrics” of SYMPHORCE and PAIN OF SALVATION. First I would like to say: As I already said 1,5 years ago, yes It IS my fault!

But how could this happen??

Since I write lyrics, from time to time it was something very special to me, using sometimes one or two lines of another band in my lyrics, which influenced or affected me a lot over the last years or in my entire life. But it was never my intention to damage one of those bands, and it never did. So it was always more my kind of paying a tribute to my “heroes”. Friends and fans of my bands always knew this.


But in the case of PAIN OF SALVATION this was something completely different:
My lyrics always accrue over a very long term. I collect ideas, note them down handwritten, draft sentences and rearrange them later again. To be inspired for lyrics from time to time I read a lot of books, I´m watching movies or just TV or borrow myself some CDs from friends. So I also liked to notify sometimes textuals, subject matters -about english formulations- and helpful linguistic suggestions.

The textual matters of the borrowed PAIN OF SALVATION CDs were very, very impressing for me.

So I started to notify some different parts from their booklets just to remind me beneath my own written lyrics.


Most of the lyrics for our album „phorcefulAhead“ were already written months before we entered the studio. Why I started picking off my handwritten papers again to rearrange complete parts on some lyrics and replaced them with “others” two weeks before we went into the studio….I really don´t know and it´s still a miracle to me! They fit perfectly into my own stuff . But, that´s what I did! I read the lines and was sure „this is what I (!?) wrote some months ago“! And so I used all these lines without even thinking about where I could have these ideas from….but this makes the fact, that I used parts of 6 different PAIN OF SALVATION Songs into 4 different SYMPHORCE Songs way more incomprehensible. Maybe too much drugs and/or beer? Since then I didn´t touch anything, but in that moment, I really thought, that these „handwritten lyrics sheets“ contain “only” my personal formulations. Anyway, I displaced the “old lyrics” for the astonishment of the whole band, without anyone’s suspicion … even me!


An e-Mail of one fan in the middle of January made me perplex, when he told me about some similarities between both bands lyrics. But just one month after, I discovered my incredible default, after a fan started to study all our lyrics and fans got very angry because of the similarities.

Parts from six different PAIN OF SALVATION CDs can be found in four different Songs on our latest SYMPHORCE CD “phorcefulAhead”. Unknowable I´ve done a very, very big mistake and feel now deeply ashamed for something that should have never happened.


To answer the question, “what can I do”, I´m really helpless! But on this point, I would like to apologise

myself for all fans, especially PAIN OF SALVATION and their extremely talented Singer and songwriter Daniel Gildenlöw and all the other bands I´ve used one or two lines of their lyrics for paying an homage to them. I know, some won´t believe and it sounds unbelievable, but I never wanted to damage anyone or to irritate fans!


My ranking as a singer was never because of my lyrics, more because of my voice and my acting on stage. But it comes straight from my heart to let anyone know, that this is really, really embarrassing!

So again, I would like to ask all fans and bands (esp. PAIN OF SALVATION) for forgiveness! There were no bad intentions!!!


I will never use anything for quotations or inspiration fonts also if they were just meant only as a tribute to some unique bands.

All releases will be free of something like that and will contain no lyrical similarities of any other band! I know what I can do, and I know what I should never do in my whole life. I know my roots and I know where I come from. Right now I´m feeling low, dirty and ashamed! But the innocent will cast the first stone, all the others I please for forgiveness!

sincerly
Andy B. Franck

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Meh he just sounds like an idiot who did too many drugs and forgot something and fucked everything up.

 

[Element_man]

The new album has terrible production.

I Disagree entirelly, I love the production for the new album. Just the right amount of punch, and I love what they've done with the vocals. The production matches the more sophisticated direction they've taken with the music.

 

[Mort Divine]

Too sterile for me.

 

[Einherjar86]

I understand what you mean actually by a sterile production (that's an interesting choice of words, but effectual). However, I find the music itself to be so aggressive, emotional and powerful that I can look past production. It's the same deal with Borknagar, for me. I think that Kiuas has one of the most aggressive, extreme sounds in power metal, and it totally takes my mind away from production value.

 

[TheAnonymous]

I started listening to Kiuas, and they're really good. First I tried the myspace songs, and Of Ancient Wounds and The New Chapter totally blew me away. Now I just finished listening to Reformation, and it's a pretty good album but none of the songs even come close to those two. They're definately worth more listening to though.

 

[Element_man]

Haha, you definately picked their weakest album to listen to, so if you liked 'Reformation' then 'Spirit of Ukko' and 'The New Dark Age' should decimate your mind.

 

[TheAnonymous]

I downloaded The Spirit of Ukko to see if I like it, so I'll listen to that when I have the time, and I guess sooner or later I'm gonna try The New Dark Age too, but I listened to 2 songs from there in youtube and I didn't like them that much.

Edit: Oh, and I can't stop singing Of Ancient Wounds in my head, that song is so awesome.

 

[General Zaroff]

Listening to Dream Evil right now, I'm digging it.

 

[Einherjar86]

Haha, you definately picked their weakest album to listen to, so if you liked 'Reformation' then 'Spirit of Ukko' and 'The New Dark Age' should decimate your mind.

Yeah, Spirit of Ukko is definitely the best album. Then comes The New Dark Age, then Reformation. There are great songs on Reformation, but some of the songs seem forced. Ukko is awesome, and Dark Age is almost equal.

Check out the song "Across the Snows" on Ukko. It's got one of the sweetest, most badass climaxes ever. It makes you want to slaughter Christians...

...or maybe just grab a beer and jump up and down. That works too.

 

[False Joe]

Listened to The Summoning off the new album.

What's going on with his voice? Is it like this all the way through? I remember rough, almost growling vocals.

 

[Einherjar86]

Are you saying that on previous albums Ilja had a more rough, growling sound; or are you saying that The Summoning has a rough, growling sound? Personally, each album always had a few songs that Ilja sang a bit more cleanly than the rest. On The New Dark Age, The Summoning is one of those songs, I think. But there are plenty of rough vocals to make up for it (Decaying Doctrine, Conqueror, To Excel and Ascend, Kiuas War Anthem...).

I love the background choir section on The Summoning. It sounds a bit thin, but I think it's so cool for some reason; great melodies and harmonies.

 

[False Joe]

Oh thank god

I meant on the other albums he had that brilliant growling sound. The thing that puts me off power metal sometimes is the vocals, and his were awesome.

 

[Einherjar86]

Yeah, he has one of the most unique voices in all metal, in my opinion. Don't worry, there's plenty of the traditional "Ilja rage" on the new record. However, there are also some softer songs that showcase the more clean side to his vocals. After the Storm is completely acoustic, and The Wanderer's Lamentation is partially acoustic. They're still incredible songs though (Ilja's sister sings on After the Storm with him; it's fuckin' awesome!).

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Manticora is owning me right now

 

[Einherjar86]

HIBRIA is continuing to impress me.

Millenium Quest is an unbelievably awesome song.