The Beatles - the most overrated band of all time
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Spiff
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KoichCPA
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No, The rolling stones are the most overated band of all time.
At least the beatles had decent songs every 10 songs.
At least the beatles had decent songs every 10 songs.
Southy
Proud Brisbane Metaller
Of course they are over rated now, but back then, at the start, they were THE only band doing what they were doing successfully, hence the title and all
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Hmmmm.... I dunno where to start with that really.
You say every 10 or so songs they had a hit. When they first started, pretty much every song they released went to Number 1 in the UK and then the US and rest of the world. By the time they finished, they had clocked up TWENTY SEVEN NUMBER 1 SINGLES. That is fucking ridiculous. Now think about this:
Love Me Do (Their First Single)was released in 62.
The Long and Winding Road (Their last single) was released in 70.
That is 8 years. 27 number 1's in 8 years is a fuck off feat for anyone.
They did things that the music world hadn't even dreamt of doing at the time. They invented feedback (well, they were the first to use it on Revolution), they invented the film clip, they changed the fuckin face of music as we know it. I STRONGLY disagree that Nights in White Satin and Paint it Black are better than any Beatles songs. But that is cool, that is opinion.
I'd argue that Lennon was as strong, if not a stronger song writer thatn Paul. Paul wrote sweet, pop songs most of the time (with many exceptions mind you) and John wrote the more experimental, cutting edge stuff. Then you throw in George who wrote some of the Beatles best songs (Something/While My Guitar Gently Weeps etc)...
I dunno.... I'm going nowhere with this post. Bottom line is, you're wrong
You say every 10 or so songs they had a hit. When they first started, pretty much every song they released went to Number 1 in the UK and then the US and rest of the world. By the time they finished, they had clocked up TWENTY SEVEN NUMBER 1 SINGLES. That is fucking ridiculous. Now think about this:
Love Me Do (Their First Single)was released in 62.
The Long and Winding Road (Their last single) was released in 70.
That is 8 years. 27 number 1's in 8 years is a fuck off feat for anyone.
They did things that the music world hadn't even dreamt of doing at the time. They invented feedback (well, they were the first to use it on Revolution), they invented the film clip, they changed the fuckin face of music as we know it. I STRONGLY disagree that Nights in White Satin and Paint it Black are better than any Beatles songs. But that is cool, that is opinion.
I'd argue that Lennon was as strong, if not a stronger song writer thatn Paul. Paul wrote sweet, pop songs most of the time (with many exceptions mind you) and John wrote the more experimental, cutting edge stuff. Then you throw in George who wrote some of the Beatles best songs (Something/While My Guitar Gently Weeps etc)...
I dunno.... I'm going nowhere with this post. Bottom line is, you're wrong
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Oh, and reputation has nothing to do with why they are still popular to this day. It's the fuckin music man. The songs they wrote 40 years ago still stand up today. I would still hold Abbey Road in my top 5 albums of all time.
Go put on the entire Abbey Road album from start to finish and come back and tell me it doesn't sound amazing.
Go put on the entire Abbey Road album from start to finish and come back and tell me it doesn't sound amazing.
Spiff
I have the power
I kinda like the Stones. Never used to until I gave them a bit of time. Gimme Shelter and Wild Horses are great songs. The rest I can sorta take or leave though, but I love those two tracks.
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Well it's pretty pointless to have this conversation I think cause it really is like trying to debate that oranges are better than apples. It is not a fact that the Beatles are the best band of all time and nothing will really change your opinion. Makes for interesting discussion though
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Well you said why are they heralded as the most influencial and best band.. You didn't ask whether they were the best musicians (cause quite clearly, they aren't)
Spiff
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Wrathchild
Miserable Bastard
Ceydn and I agree on a great many things, but when (pissed or not) he comes out with a post like this, it reminds me to treat the opinions of someone who likes Guns n' Roses with extreme caution .
Beatles > pretty much everyone else.
That is all.
W
.Beatles > pretty much everyone else.
That is all.
W
Spiff
I have the power
What's wrong with the Gunners, Wrathy?
I have a massive respect for The Beatles, think they wrote some of the best songs ever, and obviously I don't think they're overrated or anything... but they wouldn't be in my top 10 favourite bands. Probably not even the top 20.
Greatest band ever? Nah. But I totally understand why people would call them that.
I have a massive respect for The Beatles, think they wrote some of the best songs ever, and obviously I don't think they're overrated or anything... but they wouldn't be in my top 10 favourite bands. Probably not even the top 20.
Greatest band ever? Nah. But I totally understand why people would call them that.
Wrathchild
Miserable Bastard
What's wrong with the Gunners, Wrathy?
Axl, pure and simple. His voice ruined songs that deserve to be classics and his ego destroyed the band that played them.
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Wrathchild
Miserable Bastard
I honestly don't know how anyone can consider one of the most important and influential bands in the history of popular culture to be overrated. The Beatles' legacy will live on long after all the groups we rave about on this forum have disappeared, because all the songs that people know and love simply were that good. Sometimes there's a reason for hype, y'know .
This doesn't mean that I blindly worship everything they did. A lot of the early Beatles hits sound like particularly irritating playground nursery rhymes to me, and I don't think Sgt Pepper deserves all the critical praise it gets because Rubber Soul and Revolver are both more consistent, but even at its worst and most indulgent, the Beatles' music is still miles ahead of anything else that was around at the time. Why do you think it still gets so much radio play forty years on? Sixties nostalgia alone doesn't have that much staying power.
W
.This doesn't mean that I blindly worship everything they did. A lot of the early Beatles hits sound like particularly irritating playground nursery rhymes to me, and I don't think Sgt Pepper deserves all the critical praise it gets because Rubber Soul and Revolver are both more consistent, but even at its worst and most indulgent, the Beatles' music is still miles ahead of anything else that was around at the time. Why do you think it still gets so much radio play forty years on? Sixties nostalgia alone doesn't have that much staying power.
W
How can you listen to new GnR, haven't they not put out an album for like 13years, fucken posers.
Spiff
I have the power
Oh, they're certainly the most important and most influential band ever. They changed the face of music. Nothing was the same once they came along.
Spruce Goose
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But you can't say that just because they did it first doesn't mean anything.
It would be like an episode of Futurama or something. There would be NO way of knowing what the music world would be like now without the Beatles. If the lightglobe wasn't invented, you can't just assume that someone else would have come up with the idea... You just don't know. We could still be living in darkness.
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It would be like an episode of Futurama or something. There would be NO way of knowing what the music world would be like now without the Beatles. If the lightglobe wasn't invented, you can't just assume that someone else would have come up with the idea... You just don't know. We could still be living in darkness.
This post made no sense
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Not really. As I said, they were the first to use Distortion/Feedback (on revolution)
No other band was writing songs like I am the Walrus or Strawberry Fields. No one else was doing backwards mellotrons and slowed down vocals (SF).
All 3 of those songs were from the later years.
No other band had done a big concept piece like side 2 of abbey road. (Where all the songs kinda blend together and the recurring themes keep popping up etc).
No other Western Band had experimented with sitars and actually made great songs out of em like The Beatles did on Revolver and Rubber Soul (Middle Years, after the Help! Love Me Do and Please Please Me Days)
No ther band did the millions of vocal overdubs and sound effects like on A Day in the Life.
They were the first band to play to packed STADIUMS.
Their chord progressions that they used had never been done before.
Fuck it, The Beatles are the most influential band of all time.
No other band was writing songs like I am the Walrus or Strawberry Fields. No one else was doing backwards mellotrons and slowed down vocals (SF).
All 3 of those songs were from the later years.
No other band had done a big concept piece like side 2 of abbey road. (Where all the songs kinda blend together and the recurring themes keep popping up etc).
No other Western Band had experimented with sitars and actually made great songs out of em like The Beatles did on Revolver and Rubber Soul (Middle Years, after the Help! Love Me Do and Please Please Me Days)
No ther band did the millions of vocal overdubs and sound effects like on A Day in the Life.
They were the first band to play to packed STADIUMS.
Their chord progressions that they used had never been done before.
Fuck it, The Beatles are the most influential band of all time.
Spruce Goose
Then Goose me up woman!
Oh, and I still love the early years and think that some of their best songs come from that period. Sure, the song writing wasn't as advanced, but listen to how fuckin tight their vocal harmonies are on songs like No Reply and You're Going to Lose that Girl, and also how awesome the vocal melodies are for such simple songs.
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