Exactly, that's why this thread is pointless. Aside from the obvious early stylistic developments, it's too hard to describe the many original creations since then. Blut Aus Nord, Opeth, Gorguts, Morbid Angel, Necrophagist, Arcturus, Agalloch, Emperor (with ATTWAD) etc etc have all made major progressions in metal that are too difficult to encapsulate in absolute terms or in one sentence.
The thread is far from pointless - it's always useful (and important) to be able to locate and identify originality in music. If anything, I'm just being too demanding about the requirements for listing bands. But the reason I'm doing that is so that we can have a meaningful list of musical achievements, as opposed to just a long string of names that offer no insight whatsoever as to what the artists' accomplishments were.
I can always just start tossing names up less discriminately. That would ensure that important bands don't get left out due to technicalities, but of course it'll give the list more inaccuracies.
There isn't a single right way this has to be done. If you all think putting less descriptive entries up would help things out overall, then I'm fine with that.
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I'd say early BAN was innovative in the sense that it hugely incorporated clean vocals and lead guitar/solos in epic BM...anyone done that before...I dunno??
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I'd say early BAN was innovative in the sense that it hugely incorporated clean vocals and lead guitar/solos in epic BM...anyone done that before...I dunno??
Ulver and In The Woods... incorporated clean vocals even earlier. Mörk Gryning had lots of solos on 'Tusen Ar Har Gått' back in 1995
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* Combined death metal and surf rock into a cohesive sound. (Splatterthrash, 2006)
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I really think you should knock this band off the list. They aren't innovators unless they influenced other bands to follow their style. And I'm pretty sure a bunch of surf death bands haven't sprung up in 2007 so far. If you keep these guys on, then you better add Flametal(for fusing flamenco and metal) and a crap load of Avant-Garde bands for all the fusion genres that have been made.
I think you should keep the list short and simple to the bands that influenced metal, not every single band that did something crazy and different.
Ghoul was a joke from the start to show how dumb it was to have Opeth on a list like this.
I'm not reading through the whole thread, but I always thought Megadeth were a very important band with a very identifiable sound. Mustaine's voice really helps to set them apart from the pack.