The less discussed "big" BM bands

[Cythraul]

I'm pretty sure you can't read Norwegian.

There are translations available for both Enslaved and Burzum lyrics.

 

[Alter]

Yeah, nevermind the fact that Burzum produced some of the most profound artistic expressions to come out of the Norwegian bm scene.

Maybe lyrically but not in a musical sense.

 

[wagontrain]

Maybe lyrically but not in a musical sense.

I don't know Burzum lyrics, never will, don't care. In a musical sense, his work is profoundly meaningful to me, and I have no special attachment to him spiritually, idealogically, or for any reason having to do with his influence in the genre.

 

[Mort Divine]

For what it is worth I think Samael don't get discussed enough.

 

[Cythraul]

There is also meaning lost in translation.

Big fuckin' deal. Am I supposed to not think Kafka was a great writer because there is meaning lost in translation?

 

[skeptik]

I don't think that that was I was implying at all, rather that there are quirks and meanings and paths of analysis that cannot be retrieved when language is removed from its original source. I don't think that Burzum's lyrics, for example, can be properly thoroughly analyzed in english by somebody that does not understand the source of the translation. I think the implication is more in favor of the writer than against.

 

[Cythraul]

shut up

 

[Mort Divine]

>:V rawr

 

[Matt]

Ildjarn is the the shit. Grimlair is quite amazing aswell.

 

[challenge_everything]

For what it is worth I think Samael don't get discussed enough.

I agree.

 

[wagontrain]

Samael don't deserve to be discussed after their last album. Well, maybe they do, Worship Him is decently good material.

 

[Mort Divine]

Worship Him, Blood Ritual, and Ceremony of Opposites are all fantastic albums completely worth discussion

 

[MasterOLightning]

I need to check out Samael sooner or later. When you basically only buy music, it's hard to get to all these bands as well as current favorites. I finally got Gorgoroth and Satyricon releases within the last month. Sooner or later I'll get to early Behemoth, Ildjarn, and Samael, depending on what's still in print. I know early Behemoth is. That stuff is good as far as I know, and it doesn't get talked about much compared to their exceedingly average death metal material.

 

[Attilio II]

to clear something up, Enslaved is "Pagan Metal." probably because viking metal has been given a bad name as of late.

and look at Obtained Enslavement's wiki

 

[Scourge of God]

Yeah but Vikingligr Veldi is pretty fucking dope.

Yggdrasill and Frost are worthy releases as well, but, of course, they lack the homicidal cachet of Burzum.

 

[Scourge of God]

How was Burzum less prolific than Enslaved? Varg recorded 6 full lengths and an EP in a 7 year span. Enslaved released 5 albums and an EP during the same time period. You can't exactly blame him for not being able to record albums after his equipment was taken away in prison...

 

[Scourge of God]

Maybe lyrically but not in a musical sense.

There's more going on musically in "Det som engang var" than pretty much everything else recorded by every band in the world combined since about 1950. You sir, are an idiot.

 

[tagradh]

There's more going on musically in "Det som engang var" than pretty much everything else recorded by every band in the world combined since about 1950. You sir, are an idiot.

I am interested to know what you mean by 'more going on musically'.

 

[Scourge of God]

Exactly what it says - this music is so fundamentally complex (not in technique, but in its layering and the marriage of concept and aesthetic) that it really can't even be discussed in the language of contemporary music.

 

[Cythraul]

Yggdrasill and Frost are worthy releases as well, but, of course, they lack the homicidal cachet of Burzum.

Oh I definitely like Frost as well, though it took me a while to develop a real appreciation for that one. I haven't heard Yggdrasil.