The Political & Philosophy Thread

Well no, I'm not a conservative so that doesn't follow.

But certainly if being conservative is defined historically and most classically as being religious, within that context does a non-religious conservative signify an evolution of conservatism?
 
Well no, I'm not a conservative so that doesn't follow.

But certainly if being conservative is defined historically and most classically as being religious, within that context does a non-religious conservative signify an evolution of conservatism?

So you aren't a conservative but also aren't a progressive? I guess you claim to be moderate?

Everyone's religious. The venues, rights (ceremony), tenets, etc just change.
 
So you aren't a conservative but also aren't a progressive? I guess you claim to be moderate?

Everyone's religious. The venues, rights (ceremony), tenets, etc just change.

I consider myself a classical liberal if pushed, but prefer to just call myself an independent. All sides have ideas I like.

What the fuck is a conservative to you guys?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.
 
What the fuck is a conservative to you guys?

It's really difficult to figure out exactly what western conservatism would look like in the 21st century or beyond, since liberalism has been the dominant political mode since the 19th century. My main concern is the conditions of its return, as liberalism appears hellbent on an murder suicide of overindulgence in every aspect conceivable - the initial and remaining fears of a decreasing amount of people, even as the likelihood increases. A conservatism stepping into such a vacuum is probably going to be a swing too far in the other direction, or some grotesque corruption of the form.

I stumbled onto this paper via Google, I think it's a good introduction to criticisms of liberalism in several aspects:

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/philosophy/files/staff/116/critiqueofliberalism.pdf

Of course it'll probably be tl;dr for most everyone......
 
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Can't believe we're bashing the dead in here. What awful people. Fucking right-leaning neoconservative notconservativethoughs in here
 
Is the truth "bashing"? Buckley really is an ugly dude, regardless of what one might think of his positions. Who is the neocon in these parts?
 
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/03/19/book-review-the-art-of-the-deal/

Another great read on Trump via a psychiatrist's blog I follow.

..... when he says that he’s going to solve Medicare by hiring great managers and knowing all the right people, I don’t think this is some vapid way of avoiding the question. I think it’s the honest output of a mind that works very differently from mine. I’ve been designing ideal systems of government for the heck of it ever since I was old enough to realize what a government was. Trump is at serious risk of actually taking over a government, and such design still doesn’t appeal to him. The best he can do is say that other people are badat governing, but he’s going to be good at governing, on account of his deal-making skill. I think he honestly believes this. It makes perfect sense in real estate, where some people are good businesspeople, others are bad businesspeople, and the goal is to game the system rather than change it. But in politics, it’s easy to interpret as authoritarianism – “Forget about policy issues, I’m just going to steamroll through this whole thing by being personally strong and talented.”

I said it before, but it bears repeating – this book has a really good ghostwriter. Yeah, it comes across as narcissistic; there’s probably no way to avoid that in a Trump autobiography. But Donald Trump’s interest in Donald Trump pales beside his blazing hot interest in the sheer awesomeness of hotel property deals. And part of me wants to say that people with obsessive interests in bizarre things are My Kind Of People.