The Ron Paul appreciation thread!

[StoneLord]

 

[colonel kurtz]

Way to buy into the media's garbage though! Two thumbs up for that. You are a class-A example, right here on these very boards, of how easily the media can sway momentum away from Ron, often by spreading blatant lies or half-truths. They're feeding you a lie that you don't even take the time to research, and then you proceed to dive right into a big, false conclusion:

sorry man, but in order for the media to sway my support away from ron paul, i would have had to support him in the first place. while i agree with some of his proposed policies, especially those concerning fiscal policy, the fed, and national "defense", he's still just one more fundamentalist baptist bigot who's main concern, above all others, is forcing biblical law on the populace, and to put it simply...

 

[AD Chaos]

 

[JeffTD]

IN, CA, NJ, and UT are all winner-take-all states. Food for thought.

 

[outbreak525]

 

[SocialNumb]

Did you bother to check the website attached to that video?

Warning: Put on your tinfoil hat.

 

[JeffTD]

Romney needs 178 more delegates. Texas has 155 and California has (a winner-take-all) 170 - this will be over on/by June 5th.

 

[egan.]

I'm a little surprised at how not only accepting but pleased RP fans are of this current plan. It's politically brilliant but it just seems like circumventing the popular vote through clever politics flys in the face of what the movement claims to stand for.

 

[AD Chaos]

 

[JeffTD]

Why do you keep posting videos instead of intelligent rebuttals? He's going to lose, like I've been saying the whole time.

 

[Aaron Smith]

I'm a little surprised at how not only accepting but pleased RP fans are of this current plan. It's politically brilliant but it just seems like circumventing the popular vote through clever politics flys in the face of what the movement claims to stand for.

The caucusing process is specifically designed so that the most motivated, researched, and organized attendees have the greatest opportunity for success in collecting delegates for their candidate. Personally, I think that's awesome, and much more fair than simply rewarding a candidate with all of a state's delegates by simply counting the popular vote in a primary. Whatever candidate the media decides to talk up to the average casual voter (the same army of casual voters who aren't interested in even showing up to a caucus for a couple hours on a Saturday), is the same candidate who is most likely to win the popular vote, so caucusing helps to remove the media's influence from the political process, at least to a certain degree. Also, I could care less about the "honor" of the popular vote, when the majority of those who represent that vote are in favor of policies I think are economically dangerous.

 

[John_C]

Also, I could care less about the "honor" of the popular vote, when the majority of those who represent that vote are in favor of policies I think are economically dangerous.

Am I misunderstanding you or are you saying you don't care about fair democracy when there are lots of people who disagree with you voting?

 

[Trevoire520]

I think the point he's trying to make is that there are alot of people who judge their vote entirely on who's pushed by the mainstream media and make little or no effort to research things and think for themselves. So the popular vote isn't necessarily the best or most educated one.

It's the same idea that just because Mariah Carey has sold more records than AC/DC doesn't necessarily mean that she's musically better.

Personally I think you should have to pass some kind of intelligence test before being given the right to vote, as you should be able to have some kind of grasp on the potential long term effects and of a policy suggested by a politician.

 

[TesticleMilkshake]

So, I think he announced he's running on a third party ticket.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/ron-paul-i-cant-win-the-nomination-but-im-not-dropping-out/2012/05/15/gIQAuPUNRU_blog.html

Time to spilt the GOP's vote!

 

[SocialNumb]

That's not going to be your permanent sig is it? I don't mean to complain, really I don't but that thing could cause a seizure.

 

[TesticleMilkshake]

That's not going to be your permanent sig is it? I don't mean to complain, really I don't but that thing could cause a seizure.

Hahahah, that's why I put it in my sig. but I can see that getting incredibly annoying. My eyes are already pretty bugged out from it. I'm probably going to change it today.

 

[JeffTD]

Personally I think you should have to pass some kind of intelligence test before being given the right to vote, as you should be able to have some kind of grasp on the potential long term effects and of a policy suggested by a politician.

While I agree with the sentiment, I don't trust a single human being or committee of them on earth to write this test.

 

[Skinny Viking]

Am I misunderstanding you or are you saying you don't care about fair democracy when there are lots of people who disagree with you voting?

I just had the exact same thought but figured I must have misunderstood him

 

[AD Chaos]

Why do you keep posting videos instead of intelligent rebuttals? He's going to lose, like I've been saying the whole time.

Maybe, just maybe..

 

[egan.]

While I agree with the sentiment, I don't trust a single human being or committee of them on earth to write this test.

This. We've had them in the US before and we don't want them back.
I do understand what Aaron is saying but I'd rather they do away with the farce of a mock election and let the registered republicans duke it out if that's really the intent of the system.

On an aside, as an independent voter I found it a little annoying that I couldn't vote in the democratic gubernatorial primary in NC and the republican presidential primary. 28 of the last 31 NC governors have been democrats so historically the democratic primary decides the election (though that could certainly be different this year).