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I can see why you only got a 24
Actually I feel kind of bad saying that, I have no idea what a good ACT score is. I took the SAT and was rejected from Northwestern.
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Actually I feel kind of bad saying that, I have no idea what a good ACT score is. I took the SAT and was rejected from Northwestern.
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I don't remember exactly but I think it was 2170 on the new one, 1460 without the writing section, give or take 20 on either score.
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Northwestern is a bitch to get into, as we have talked about the past few pages. What school do you go to in Toronto?
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The SAT Math sexually violated my person, the English sections I aced, except for the essay which they gave less than half the time they should have to write it. I came out with a 1750.
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Standardized testing is bullshit to begin with. It tests your ability to take tests rather than your knowledge of the material. I'm studying for the GRE right now and it's a pain in the fucking ass.
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Who cares.
Srsly.
There's an issue in schools that keeps getting pointed out that kids aren't getting taught how to understand things, just how to pass tests.
There's an issue in schools that keeps getting pointed out that kids aren't getting taught how to understand things, just how to pass tests.
A lot of colleges are starting to abandon the SAT/ACT requirement for the reasons Einherjar stated...which is a good thing...the standardized testing industry as run by The College Board is a fucking goldmine.
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ehh I don't know. I'm not sure how much I can validate taking a math test for an English Rhetoric and Composition Master's program
"Wow! Look at how easy he could find the hypotenuse of that triangle! He must know about grammar, literacy discourses and pedagogy!"
"Wow! Look at how easy he could find the hypotenuse of that triangle! He must know about grammar, literacy discourses and pedagogy!"
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Certain departments don't even require the GRE. For instance, the philosophy grad program at MIT doesn't require it, which is pretty surprising. Even at some places where it is required, grad admissions committees might not take it very seriously. Opinions on the usefulness of the GRE vary across admissions committees and individuals. I can imagine the math section being useful for mathematics and physics departments for weeding out weak applicants, but then one might wonder whether math weakness wouldn't simply be reflected in the student's undergrad GPA for these kinds of majors. Certain parts of the verbal section I can imagine being a somewhat useful measure of something, but that section is HIGHLY FLAWED. I find the test useless for the most part.
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I'm not sure there's a viable alternative to tests like the SAT and ACT. In a sense, they primarily measure test-taking ability, but that is a pretty good indicator of how successful someone will be in college. With the increasing number of schools accepting a standardized application, there's no easy way to sort applicants without tests like that. For graduate programs with far smaller applicant pools, it's easier to take other factors into consideration. The school probably has more at stake with who they admit into their graduate programs as well.
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College Board really sucks. They failed to send my SAT scores to over half of the schools I applied to after paying a ridiculous fee for them not to do their jobs. I ended up having to just have my high school send them.
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What sucks even more about the GRE is that it requires you to read quickly and to comprehend material in an insanely short amount of time. I'm a literature major, but there's no way I completely understand an article or passage in one read (unless it's simply written, which the GRE passages aren't). I like to read and reread a few times; but on the GRE, there's no time for reading multiple times. They want you to read a passage once and then answer questions about it.
I have a friend who majored in architecture. He still had to take the GRE, for some absurd purpose, but his department didn't care what score he got on it. He just had to be able to say he took it.
I agree that the test is flawed. The reading comprehension portions in the verbal section are badly flawed, I think. The time limits severely hinder the test-taker's ability to perform.
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Time limit is one of many flaws. One of the things that pissed me off about the test was that you had to know insanely obscure words in order to score well on really basic questions. So for instance, the test would have a question where they would give you a word and then you'd be given a multiple choice question where you're asked to give the antonym of the word, but the thing is THE WORDS ARE SHIT YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. Seriously, I have read a SHITLOAD of academic writing and a lot of the vocabulary that I had to know for the GRE was not only completely new to me, but completely useless to me. The verbal section is just highly flawed. Sometimes you will get questions that any intelligent undergraduate can answer, and then depending on the random way in which the questions are administered you could get questions that nobody besides some historian of medieval weaponry could answer. It's completely retarded. Maybe they've improved things since I've taken it; I really hope so. If I were on an admissions committee, I wouldn't take that shit too seriously.
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