The Whining and Bitching Thread

[zabu of nΩd]

Now that sounds more like depression

 

[PrincessHades]

Now that sounds more like depression

I like to call it melancholy.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Hopefully not because you don't want to admit you have depression and/or seek potentially life-saving treatment

 

[no country for old wainds]

i'd be depressed too if i was iron wizard.

 

[CiG]

ever wake up in the morning and think "this again?" I used to think it was depression but now I realize it's just getting older ugh

Nope.

 

[Krow]

Some fuck head threw a (unopened I assume) can of soda out of their vehicle and busted my windshield last night on my way back from Lowes. Was after dark so I have no idea why or anything, just could tell what it was because if busted all over my fucking car.

 

[The Ozzman]

Some fuck head threw a (unopened I assume) can of soda out of their vehicle

Why the fuck would someone do that? I bet if the roles were reversed, he would've been pissed and followed you home or some shit.

 

[CF87]

Some fuck head threw a (unopened I assume) can of soda out of their vehicle and busted my windshield last night on my way back from Lowes. Was after dark so I have no idea why or anything, just could tell what it was because if busted all over my fucking car.

No one gives a shit about your car, don't let it bother you, they're just jealous.

 

[Dak]

Fortunately I do not currently find myself in a situation which can be perpetual. An old saying is that a rut is a grave without the ends filled in yet - gotta get out of it.

 

[CiG]

Blaming your shitty life on just getting old is a massive cop out.

 

[tagradh]

Yeah, having a boring life =/= anal fissures.

 

[Funerary_Doom]

Agreed. Finished testing (Ela State Test) I told the testing coordinator at my school to be careful who they put to proctor in the room. Well, she didn't listen on Tuesday and my favorite but bad student cursed the teacher out telling her to "suck my dick you fucking bitch!"

After three periods of testing with them I need a break (illegal for teachers to go 4 in a row) so again they schedule that same teacher. She told me she didn't want to go back in there with my homeroom because my students are protective and don't deal with change well and she doesn't want to be cursed out. So she switched with another teacher who he knows n as soon as I left he room he wrote "idk" on the line. The teacher told him to erase it and he did. But then he just handed in the test. Also they got in trouble for switching because we are supposed to get paid for coverages and somehow it messed it up. I'm not even sure how.

Got my homeroom from lunch and he was gloomy and I asked what's up with him. He wasn't talking so I let him rock out like that (he wasn't cursing so that's a step). Then he told me he felt like crying because he disappointed and let me down by not doing well on the test and that he didn't understand what the questions were asking. I felt bad but still...


tl;dr my student cursed one of the teachers out while proctoring. Scared her away. They assigned her again yesterday. She switched with another teacher. They got in trouble for some reason. Crying student because he didn't finish... when is the next break?

 

[CF87]

Agreed. Finished testing (Ela State Test) I told the testing coordinator at my school to be careful who they put to proctor in the room. Well, she didn't listen on Tuesday and my favorite but bad student cursed the teacher out telling her to "suck my dick you fucking bitch!"

After three periods of testing with them I need a break (illegal for teachers to go 4 in a row) so again they schedule that same teacher. She told me she didn't want to go back in there with my homeroom because my students are protective and don't deal with change well and she doesn't want to be cursed out. So she switched with another teacher who he knows n as soon as I left he room he wrote "idk" on the line. The teacher told him to erase it and he did. But then he just handed in the test. Also they got in trouble for switching because we are supposed to get paid for coverages and somehow it messed it up. I'm not even sure how.

Got my homeroom from lunch and he was gloomy and I asked what's up with him. He wasn't talking so I let him rock out like that (he wasn't cursing so that's a step). Then he told me he felt like crying because he disappointed and let me down by not doing well on the test and that he didn't understand what the questions were asking. I felt bad but still...


tl;dr my student cursed one of the teachers out while proctoring. Scared her away. They assigned her again yesterday. She switched with another teacher. They got in trouble for some reason. Crying student because he didn't finish... when is the next break?

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Trying to study history but getting distracted by my own quarter-life crisis. By historical standards I could've very well lived a full life by now. But I've barely lived at all. I'm nowhere near self-actualization and I have for the most part taken no joy in being alive. If I died today and some divine being asked me to rate the experience I'd give it a solid 0/10. I'm only living out of hope that if I keep working on it maybe someday things will get better but I have no guarantee that they will. I know plenty of people with atheistic/materialistic worldviews that don't also subscribe to pessimism/antinatalism but to me the latter philosophy seems to follow logically from the former and it came to me with no difficulty at all. Is my life just singularly fucking hollow for me to see things this way and if so what the fuck do I do about it?

Part of me wonders if this a worldview that flourishes in isolation (seems to have worked that way for Lovecraft) because I've had a pretty solitary fucking life. To summarize my life story briefly, I grew up in one of the remotest godforsaken places you could imagine without leaving the first world, the only friends I had either died or moved away so I retreated into books and games and lost touch with the world. When I eventually moved to a larger town to attend high school it turned out my social skills were kinda shit and I never made any friends and got miserable and dropped out and moved back home where I lived for a few years doing fuck all but helping to take care of my dad who was dying a slow death after suffering several strokes which was another thing about my life that kinda sucked. Sorry, I don't like to whine like this or to blame external circumstances for everything that's gone wrong in my life, there were certainly things I could've done better. And I haven't given up, I'm continuously working to improve myself, find happiness and a place in the world. I just can't help but feel sometimes that a life of misery was just ordained for me by some sadistic higher force.

 

[CiG]

I'm an atheist myself and always have been, since I was probably about 10 yet I've never been attracted to or succumbed to these pessimistic worldviews like the ones you mentioned.

Maybe you ought to attempt an ideological change before your life devolves into pure hell and chaos? You might benefit from it. Read some Jung perhaps?

 

[Vegard Pompey]

I would like to get rid of this ideology, it just seems terribly rational to me. I am not terribly familiar with Jung, wasn't aware he had writings that may relate to this. Reading Marcus Aurelius right now.

 

[CiG]

Jungian psychology (aka analytical psychology) is incredibly powerful and helpful granted you open yourself to it.

Professor Jordan B. Peterson and his daughter have severe depression and he often talks about dwelling in dark depths of misery and so on, the little personality issues I have his analytical presentations of Jungian psychology have helped me understand better and deal with.

If you're not very familiar with Jung, Jordan's videos might be a good foot-in.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Part of me wonders if this a worldview that flourishes in isolation (seems to have worked that way for Lovecraft)

i know they seem like malignant monstrosities but black people are actually quite nice when you get to know them pompey

personally i'm very atheist and rational but i'm also genuinely stimulated by shit like books and games and movies and sports and various other hobbies, and that may not be rational at base, i think it's more of just a brain wiring thing, like OCD or something. i go out with friends having what would conventionally be considered a great time and i'm like ugh i wish i was at home browsing fucking criticker lol. i guess i personally feel that hedonism follows just as logically from atheism as despair does, 'cept my brand of hedonism is dorkier than most people's. i also think feeling like basically everything is retarded and meaningless and hollow actually works in my favour because it means i don't pressure myself into being a Real Person and doing stuff other people consider to be 'living' or whatever, i don't really have that grass-is-greener feeling that stops me from enjoying my unambitious boring-seeming nerdy existence. i do tend to set myself goals though, even ones as trivial as completing a list or something - i get antsy if i don't create some sense of purpose and direction for myself, artificial though it may be (isn't it always?).

that said, i HAVE gone through spells of feeling like you do in the past, and incidentally the worst of those spells came after a trip to america that highlighted a lot of things i didn't realise was missing in my life, so i do think i can empathise here. i think it helps at those times to have companionship or to be working toward some more conventionally meaningful life goals or whatever. having a girlfriend or doing studies or following a career path or, yknow, that kinda stuff. it's not that it changes your worldview so much as makes it easier to bear/ignore if you have something concrete to aim toward or people to share your life with. i doubt these kinds of ideologies seem to matter so much when you aren't spending nearly all your time dwelling on shit by yourself. so i suggest... y'know, the obvious really, working towards moving somewhere with more people and more stuff going on, maybe signing up for some kind of courses or clubs or getting a job that forces you to interact with people your own age etc. i don't know the specifics of your situation and how difficult making that change would be practically speaking, but i'll add that there are an absolute shitload of people out there like you who feel like they haven't lived and don't really know how to act/live like a normal human being, and also plenty of people out there with similar interests - if you lived and worked somewhere more populated i've no doubt you'd meet some people who you can actually feel comfortable being yourself around. i mean, you only went to america for a short time and already met someone who you really connected with, right? i know you're probably still hung up on that specific person, but the point is you probably underestimate how many people out there you'd connect with if you put yourself in a position where you could actually meet more of them. high school is reeeeeeeeally not a good way of judging whether there's a place for you in the world btw, high schoolers are the fucking worst.

p.s. marcus aurelius rules.

 

[Dak]

For someone not grappling with clinical depression etc, basic tenets of positive psychology are probably more helpful than anything else. One important caveat is that just because someone else has something in their life doesn't automatically mean it's missing in yours. Self Actualization is personal.

Edit: If you wanted to see if therapy could help you, I'd recommend looking for someone who is competent in ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy).

 

[zabu of nΩd]

I would like to get rid of this ideology, it just seems terribly rational to me. I am not terribly familiar with Jung, wasn't aware he had writings that may relate to this. Reading Marcus Aurelius right now.

I don't believe in academic study as a solution to self-defeating beliefs. You can learn all you want, but if you have self-defeating thought patterns hardwired in your brain over many years, the things you learn will eventually get pushed aside as you revert to your patterns.

Habits are key, and generally mine are impossible to change without routine scheduled activities that involve other people who can hold me accountable.

Few years ago I pulled myself out of a serious shithole by first going to therapy and support groups, which led to volunteering, then a job, then dating, Meetups, and a singing group that met once a week. Again, without scheduled activities involving social pressure to show up, I would not have gotten myself out of my rut.