The Whining and Bitching Thread

[Carpe Mortem]

Junk food/junk tv/ junk gaming is a burden, I'd say. I had a short stretch where I only worked part time and my free time was spent really not feeling accomplished at all. I think being busy more often molds you into cherishing that little bit of free time, and you're more likely to spend it on something you can really be proud of or satisfied with, rather than immediate fleeting gratification. Otherwise it just ends up day in day out routine.

 

[CiG]

If I didn't have to work I wouldn't. Not really buying into this idea that being busy with work enhances the quality of free time.

 

[Sophii]

If I didn't have to work I wouldn't. Not really buying into this idea that being busy with work enhances the quality of free time.

I agree to an extent, although I feel useless if I dont work.

 

[CiG]

That's just sad, frankly.

 

[Sophii]

Im not gonna disagree with that. It was kinda drilled into my brain growing up. But I sorta like the idea of keeping myself busy with work. It forces me to socialize (which is a good thing I think) and learn new tools and ideas.

Truthfully, if I didnt work, I honestly would have killed myself at some point.

 

[CiG]

Fucking hell, really?

 

[Sophii]

I'm not joking. I find work sort of therapeutic, even though I get annoyed with my work. Sort of a double edged sword at times, but its worth it.

 

[CiG]

If I never had to work again I'd happily stop. I'd fill up a car with books and fuck off around the country for a year, just to get that shit out of my system.

 

[Phylactery]

I had a period of not working much for a year after university as I had no idea what I wanted to do. And it sucked tbh. All your friends are generally at work so it’s not like you can spend more time with them. And honestly, I was exhausted all the time. Which sounds ridiculous, but I lost a lot of motivation. The less you do, the less you want to do. Probably didn’t help that I fell into an awful sleeping pattern of being up until 6-7am and sleeping until 2-3pm.


Sometimes I feel like work is consuming my entire life, but I still prefer it to not working. Kinda agree with Carpe here; I have more drive to do things in my free time now. I kinda revert back to a similar lifestyle in the 6 week summer holidays, but I’m tired of it by the end and ready to be back at work.

 

[CiG]

Slaves in the clothing of free people.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Slaves in the clothing of free people.

There's enough "woke" people in the world already tbh. We could use more who look forward to a life of contributing to society rather than one of freeloading on taxpayers.

And just to qualify what I said about free time: obv you need a certain minimum to be able to fully enjoy a lot of things in life, and I think the standard 40 hour/week schedule falls far short of providing that minimum. I'd love to be able to spend 2-3 months a year traveling, but I'm not allowed to take that much time off.

I was talking about more than pleasure though. I like doing productive stuff in my free time, like software projects and reading books, and I do way more of that now than I did while unemployed. I was also a terrible procrastinator, which kept me weighed down with emotional baggage all the time and prevented me from doing a lot of fun activities because they felt tme.

The good habits that come with having a job are what improve the quality of free time in a way that you can't get while unemployed. My ideal situation would be to have the financial freedom to work part-time (which I'm saving towards), because I want the best of both worlds.

 

[CiG]

Sounds like lazy people who need work to enforce structure in their lives, so they can enjoy what they actually like to do. Fair enough, but I just can't relate. There aren't enough hours in the day as far as I'm concerned and beyond money, all work does for me is makes me too tired to get more out of the free hours I have.

Edit: the longest I've ever been unemployed is about 3 weeks, so maybe I'm just lacking the necessary experience to get this.

 

[Slammed]

I'm not joking. I find work sort of therapeutic, even though I get annoyed with my work. Sort of a double edged sword at times, but its worth it.

I do agree with that. I'm happy with my job fixing computers and networks when I am left alone to get on with it. Yet it was the long solo hours on the road in the truck, which had some really great moments, that made me more fuckeder in the head that I started out.

 

[Sophii]

I do agree with that. I'm happy with my job fixing computers and networks when I am left alone to get on with it. Yet it was the long solo hours on the road in the truck, which had some really great moments, that made me more fuckeder in the head that I started out.

Working at the hospital for me was the equivalent to your truck driving job

 

[Slammed]

Working at the hospital for me was the equivalent to your truck driving job

Working in a psyche ward would be the equivalent of working with me after a few hours alone in the truck

 

[Sophii]

The hospital I worked at had a psyche ward actually. I had no problems up that way.
It was mostly people in the ER that pissed me off and drove me crazy.

Dickhead inmates, overly suicidal individuals, just ugh. The psych ward had some pretty nice people in there. The rehab part of the ward was cool too.

 

[Slammed]

Oh I can see that. An ex of mine used to have an illness that saw her needing to go to the ER every 4-6 weeks for a potassium IV. Took 3 hours or so in the ER and the people that used to come in during the early hours were some of the worse of society.

 

[Onder]

Interesting discussion about being employed and unemployed.

I'm much against the working class sort of "having a jerb" societal fetish, by which I mean people who look down on someone who's relaxing during working hours and they get all salty with "what are you doing, have nothing to do, you don't have a jerb?", I mean that's stupid as fuck. It's usually shitty people with shitty jobs who don't identify as someone specific but rather just as a "person who actually WORKS in contrary to SOMEONE who was LUCKY". It reminds me of a different thing I spotted in some comment box not long ago, where heavy smokers argued that they're the ones keeping the country running because they pay so much on tobacco tax. I mean, sure.

Not to get sidetracked, I was unemployed for four months until this week, so I can relate with much that was said on the last couple pages. First month was super chill and then I missed the structure and feeling of accomplishment, I started setting up my alarm at 7AM and making to-do lists of stuff I thought I could do just to fill up this hole. Looking back, there was definitely a lot of wasted time there.

So yeah, I did enjoy the amount of free time when unemployed, but hell, I could have been more organized.

Well now I'm back at work and happy. I get to wake up soon and I do weird shit that I couldn't have thought of on my own.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

I don't mean it like that, I mean literally how did they survive with no income.

i've been surviving with no income for the last 15 months
which will actually be ending tuesday BTW
I'll have an under-the-table job where i will only be working on Tuesdays
and a second under-the-table-job that will be grave-yard-shift monday-friday
[i'm posting this news in the whining-and-bitching-thread because Artix got me the jobs so he could live off of my money, let's see how this well this turns out]

 

[no country for old wainds]

Sounds like lazy people who need work to enforce structure in their lives, so they can enjoy what they actually like to do. Fair enough, but I just can't relate. There aren't enough hours in the day as far as I'm concerned and beyond money, all work does for me is makes me too tired to get more out of the free hours I have.

Edit: the longest I've ever been unemployed is about 3 weeks, so maybe I'm just lacking the necessary experience to get this.

we are kindred spirits on this topic, it's good to see someone else voicing my own feelings. i mean, aside from 'calling' type jobs (i.e. teaching in phylactery's case, and stuff like care work, nursing etc) where altruism is part of the point, and the minority who have 'dream jobs' (as in, getting paid to do something they'd happily do at home anyway), work is just doing something for someone else, and preferring that to doing something for yourself has always been a little bizarre and counter-intuitive to me--often i suspect it's a symptom of poor mental health when people can't hang out by themselves or outside of work structures for long without feeling shitty.

that said, what you and i have in common is being extremely hobby-oriented (read: autistic), to the point where we could probably spend 16 hours straight just diving into our hobbies/interests and go to bed satisfied, which i don't think most people are capable of. most 'normies' i know who like to work do so simply because they get bored at home, and to be honest if i lived the lives they do at home i'd probably feel the same way.