The only "god" in satanism is the god in you. Its not all about satan you know.
EDIT: From what i see you people don't know real satanists.
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The only "god" in satanism is the god in you. Its not all about satan you know.
EDIT: From what i see you people don't know real satanists.
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I dont care to learn about it... pretty much like any other religion.
And then... why is it Satanism? Why not Selfism? Or Uniqueism? Or WhythefuckdoIneedareligionism?
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LaVey used satan as a means of dramatic symbolism. the quick way to insult a christian is to start worshipping satan. the same goes for his satanist ceremonies and what not. its a dramatization/mockery of religion. they just use satan to offend people
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^ I'd say that's pretty much what any non-naive person would conclude.
Seriously. I want to see one of the so-called "Satanists" of the boards answer that question. Who the hell joins a following in order to assert their individuality?
Seriously. I want to see one of the so-called "Satanists" of the boards answer that question. Who the hell joins a following in order to assert their individuality?
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Not ALL Satanism is LaVeyan, you know. I don't practice Atheistic Satanism...that's kind of silly. That's another point: There aren't big guidelines. Christianity has rules and guidelines. Satanism is a much different thing. Especially Theistic Satanism.
It is all about Satan if it's Theistic Satanism...to a large degree anyway. The overall goal is reaching the state of a godhead, through various ritual, meditation, learning, etc. Everyone needs to stop thinking of LaVey itt. That's not the Satanism I'm referring to. I thought I've said this?
It's not really a religion. Unless you have to join a 'sect' or 'brand' or something. Hence my not joining the Church of Satan. It's atheistic, herd conformity...something they're against. Hm...weird, eh?
@Vihris: I never joined a 'following'. Again, that's part of my problem. If you are a 'Satanist', why do you need a group? If you're goal is strictly individualism, why be a part of something like the CoS? It's absurd, and this is what irritates me.
For the 92837490238th time though, when I refer to Satanism, I don't mean LaVeyan. I mean the old-school style. With an actual deity, not with yourself as your own god bla bla crap. And I don't mean inverted Christianity. Satan is a god, yes. But not the 'fallen' angel. There is no Christian God, imo. Satan is not the same thing. You have to think outside of that. Picture it similar to ancient Rome. Zeus was a god, but had nothing to do with God. Satanism is not really like that, save for some form of Polytheism.
This site is OK for explaining some aspects. But it's still there for the herd and is still looking to one-up many other types. Gay.
http://theisticsatanism.com/
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youdontknowme
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controversial opinion: Agnosticism has more basis in reality than pure atheism. My beef with atheists is that matter can just exist without being "created". how silly. I can't prove their is a god, but you can't prove their isn't.
as far as theistic satanism vs. atheistic satanism, I practice neither, I practice agnostic satanism.
as far as theistic satanism vs. atheistic satanism, I practice neither, I practice agnostic satanism.
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yes, done by humans who only use maybe 15% of their brain capacity. to understand the supernatural is to be the supernatural.
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while i'm agnostic and i agree with that argument. the one argument an athiest has is christians have the burden of proof. so an athiest doesnt have to prove nothing exists. sadly christians are generally weak minded and think the burden belongs to the athiest. anyways, athiest can tweak that argument when debating an agnostic
"what?! how can say there is no god! the proof is everywhere!"
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"what?! how can say there is no god! the proof is everywhere!"
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How can you be the supernatural? Just face that there is no proof of a supernatural even though it means magic can't be real and you can't play Harry Potter with your friend from school.
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There's a fuckton of laughable stupidity in the last few pages here that I'm tempted to comment on individually, but I won't.
I'm willing to wager that purely logically speaking, all hardline atheists will acknowledge agnostic beliefs because of the quite obvious fact of it being an impossibility to prove the nonexistence of a thing. Just as we all must be agnostic toward Zeus and Odin and the flying spaghetti monster and the invisible flying pink dildo navigating around the globe. The whole "I can't prove god but you can't disprove god" verbal aneurysm is really one of the most useless arguments one can possibly present to a reasonable atheist. I honestly don't know of any atheist who will not acknowledge the existence of god if he came down from heaven and slapped him in the face. But until then, I have no reason to believe in the possibility of his existence. The only reason that we believe that there is a god is because somebody couldn't explain how something happened at one time and had to come up with some way to reconcile his experiences with his knowledge.
I'm willing to wager that purely logically speaking, all hardline atheists will acknowledge agnostic beliefs because of the quite obvious fact of it being an impossibility to prove the nonexistence of a thing. Just as we all must be agnostic toward Zeus and Odin and the flying spaghetti monster and the invisible flying pink dildo navigating around the globe. The whole "I can't prove god but you can't disprove god" verbal aneurysm is really one of the most useless arguments one can possibly present to a reasonable atheist. I honestly don't know of any atheist who will not acknowledge the existence of god if he came down from heaven and slapped him in the face. But until then, I have no reason to believe in the possibility of his existence. The only reason that we believe that there is a god is because somebody couldn't explain how something happened at one time and had to come up with some way to reconcile his experiences with his knowledge.
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exactly. there is no way. so you can't prove shit simply because you are a mere human.
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The thing that is important is to have your belief, sure. But be open minded. I may not believe in a Christian God, but I don't completely disregard the possibility. It's very possible that my Satanist ways will send me to hell. It's possible that there's no afterlife. It's possible that I'll come back as a tree.
I agree with Genocide: Christians have the burden of proof. I've actually taken the side of a Christian for the sake of argument with friends of mine who are agnostic/satanists/atheist/wicca, what have you. It's not easy.
EDIT: Here's an interesting video on open mindedness that I think many of you should watch.
I agree with Genocide: Christians have the burden of proof. I've actually taken the side of a Christian for the sake of argument with friends of mine who are agnostic/satanists/atheist/wicca, what have you. It's not easy.
EDIT: Here's an interesting video on open mindedness that I think many of you should watch.
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