This is what America does...

[Dead_Lioness]

..and one more thing Enemy242: war is never easy and always hard... the things you see, the things you go through, your soul is being taken over madness that seems like the norm...
Today you'll justify a puppy abuse, but what if soldiers rape you as a reward for destroying your village? what if you'll see soldiers abuse an old Iraqui man who is helpless?
NO JUSTIFICATION.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Unless you're a Viking, then its awesome.

 

[slashvanyoung]

..and one more thing Enemy242: war is never easy and always hard... the things you see, the things you go through, your soul is being taken over madness that seems like the norm...
Today you'll justify a puppy abuse, but what if soldiers rape you as a reward for destroying your village? what if you'll see soldiers abuse an old Iraqui man who is helpless?
NO JUSTIFICATION.

I really <3 your take on this!

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Unless you're a Viking, then its awesome.

But I am a viking...I guess I won't look then. When I saw the video of that bear in the tree being shot it's cry haunted me for weeks.

Or was that at Karen. I'm too lazy to figure it out.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

You're not viking unless you live 1000 years ago, sorry.

 

[neal]

[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=aPldHEsVHrI[/ame]

 

[slashvanyoung]

You're not viking unless you live 1000 years ago, sorry.

Tell that some of the morons @ Ragnarök! You'll find some of the greatest parodies on a thinking human being there.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

But I am a viking...I guess I won't look then. When I saw the video of that bear in the tree being shot it's cry haunted me for weeks.

Or was that at Karen. I'm too lazy to figure it out.

I can't stand innocent and helpless that are being abused and hurt, it's not fair and wrong and one needs to be really fucked up to actually think it's "OK"

That bear made me sad too, horrible fall... bah

 

[Dead_Lioness]

I really <3 your take on this!

Danke

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

I can't stand innocent and helpless that are being abused and hurt, it's not fair and wrong and one needs to be really fucked up to actually think it's "OK"

I agree completely...

 

[Lord Foul]

I can't stand innocent and helpless that are being abused and hurt, it's not fair and wrong and one needs to be really fucked up to actually think it's "OK"

That bear made me sad too, horrible fall... bah

Define "innocent," and if someone is not innocent do your feelings about them being hurt change?

 

[Dead_Lioness]

no, I said innocent towards an animal because they are.
and no- I do not wish anyone to be abused and hurt in mindless violence.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

You're not viking unless you live 1000 years ago, sorry.

Don't rain on the only thing I like about myself just let me live in my little dream world kthx.

 

[Lord Foul]

no, I said innocent towards an animal because they are.
and no- I do not wish anyone to be abused and hurt in mindless violence.

I am still unclear on your meaning; what is it that an animal is innocent of? What form of violence is the alternative to mindless violence, and is that alternative desirable?

 

[Lunar Still]

Aye, I've wondered for a while where lies the line between innocence and guilt.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

what is it that an animal is innocent of?

Unless it comes charging at you with the intent to kill, every animal is innocent.

But then one might bring the carnivore argument into it...I don't know.

 

[Lunar Still]

Unless it comes charging at you with the intent to kill, every animal is innocent.

But then one might bring the carnivore argument into it...I don't know.

So, a gorilla that kills a male and murders its offspring so that it can mate with that male's harem is innocent, or no?

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

I didn't know gorillas did that...ok nevermind only cute animals are innocent.

 

[Lunar Still]

Pick up the book "Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence," by Wrangham and Peterson. The animal kingdom is full of evolved practices that would be called atrocities if humans committed them.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Will do sir! It's in line in my books I need to read list now.