This is what America does...

[Lunar Still]

...or any cruelty... cruelty against children, against old people, against animals... it's the same and it's all wrong.

neal your example about the cat that will go outside and kill birds just for the heck of it can be argued with the fact that it's an instinct, and since cats and dogs have been domesticated BY US HUMANS the fact that they go out and kill animals just shows their "hunting" instincts that got tamed by dominstication.
I see your point, and it's actually the best one in this thread so far, but I'd still feel bad for the bird that was killed.
Regardless: I will not be mad at the dog/ cat simply because they have no idea what they're doing: WHERE HUMANS are all about awareness. Yes we have made rules, and correct me if I'm wrong: but if you'll see a person murders another- you'll think it's wrong, no?

I come off as a PETA freak here, where really, I'm not.
I just will NEVER understand cruelty to animals- NEVER

But, humans are aware, and yet they kill and rape and abuse all the same. I see no reason why any other species, given self awareness, wouldn't follow the same pattern we have.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

 

[Altitudes]

all of our human behaviors stem from the fact that we think we're fucking special.

Am I special?

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

But, humans are aware, and yet they kill and rape and abuse all the same. I see no reason why any other species, given self awareness, wouldn't follow the same pattern we have.

The average human does not kill and rape and abuse though. If they were given self awareness and followed the same pattern, they could simply imprison rapist, etc.

 

[Altitudes]

Lucy is a cunt. She has some psychological issues of here own. She is very mean to that Charlie boy

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

I am superior.

 

[Lunar Still]

The average human does not kill and rape and abuse though. If they were given self awareness and followed the same pattern, they could simply imprison rapist, etc.

Look up the Milgram experiment. It isn't hard to get people to hurt each other.

 

[neal]

Am I special?

yes ineed!




(short-bus special)

 

[Altitudes]

Sweet!

 

[Dead_Lioness]

so bottom line, since everybody is so passionate about this subject and has so much to say: you all think its a GREAT video and the fact that soldiers were abusing this puppy was all joy and games, I see.

 

[Altitudes]

Yup

But I don't think anyone wanted the puppy to be tossed of a cliff :/

 

[Lunar Still]

Yeah, all of us who think differently are puppy-hurling Nazis!

Okay just so I don't look like the guy above me, the video DID suck.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Yup

But I don't think anyone wanted the puppy to be tossed of a cliff :/

Disgusting. I can never comprehend how someone can take pleasure in the torturing of an animal.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

wait, so what puppies deserve to die, and is the fact that you're a nazi means you hate all species that are not like you?

 

[slashvanyoung]

But, humans are aware, and yet they kill and rape and abuse all the same. I see no reason why any other species, given self awareness, wouldn't follow the same pattern we have.

That ends up to the question about how "free" the "free will" is actually. How much is predetermined by genes? AFAIK there's not definite answer to this at this point.

So could it be that this soldier just had no other choice than to act the way he did? Yes, maybe. But it's 1. not likely to be that way (complete pre-determination) and secondly it doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't happen.

 

[Altitudes]

Disgusting. I can never comprehend how someone can take pleasure in the torturing of an animal.

I wasn't serious with the "yup" I HATE animal torture

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

wait, so what puppies deserve to die, and is the fact that you're a nazi means you hate all species that are not like you?

Yes, to puppy Auschwitz with them all!

 

[Dead_Lioness]

That ends up to the question about how "free" the "free will" is actually. How much is predetermined by genes? AFAIK there's not definite answer to this at this point.

So could it be that this soldier just had no other choice than to act the way he did? Yes, maybe. But it's 1. not likely to be that way (complete pre-determination) and secondly it doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't happen.

dude, please never leave this place


Dom - for you too!!

(yes dom )

 

[Lunar Still]

wait, so what puppies deserve to die, and is the fact that you're a nazi means you hate all species that are not like you?

Actually, my post was addressing the statement you made to the effect that anyone who wasn't on the "animals are totally innocent" bandwagon was an evil sadist who enjoyed the video.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Dom - for you too!!

(yes dom )

As long as you and this board are around I'll be here. Posting senselessly and losing arguments.