this place is very hypocritical

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I hope you're not blaming AIDS on the homosexual population. Do some research. I'll give you a hint: Africa.

It is rather annoying when they flaunt their sexuality, but I also find it annoying when heterosexuals flaunt their sexuality.

The lisp and the prance... hahahahaha.... :lol:
 
Well they certainly don't help. Look, this is a socially manifested epidemic that could be solved without the millions wasted on research for a cure. Africa is horrible and so is the gay community when it comes to unprotected sex.

Don't take this the wrong way but perhaps YOU should do some research. Go look into Uganda. Their A.I.D.S. problem had little enough to do with faggots and it was really bad for a while. Now it's a lot better. Did they find a cure?! Hardly. They found solutions.
 
No, they don't help, and yes, unprotected sex does run more rampant in said community, but they are not the sole cause. From your comment I thought you were blaming them exclusively (many people do, falsely), but you were not. :spin:

Anyhow, this is probably the wrong forum for this (although maybe not!) maybe we'll continue it elsewhere...?
 
Originally posted by yabba
I don't know why the hell I'm posting in this thread, but what exactly are those attitudes?

I hate the tantrums and whining that go on within the community.

I hate the extremely flamboyant and feminine homosexuals. I especially hate the lisp, which I find inane and pointless.

I hate their "gay pride" parades.

I hate the fact that anyone who disagrees with homosexuality, or has a distaste for it, is automatically labled a bigot, as if THEIR OPINIONS are fact.

I hate that most Gay Americans, are extremely anti-American in their ethics and ideals.

That is essentially my beef with gay people.
 
Originally posted by npearce
Its amazing how much ignorance this world has. People are so quick to generalize.

Ignorance

\Ig"no*rance\, n. [F., fr. L. ignorantia.]

1. The condition of being ignorant; the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.

Now, if you can please divulge how I am "uneducated" or "uninformed" for not liking homosexuals?

This thread will continue forever if people don't learn to form an opinion based on facts.

So what are the facts then? Is it a fact now that it's wrong to dislike homosexuals?
 
Originally posted by Faggotcide
some of you worship bands that hate Christians and Christianity.........i hate faggots and homosexuality. I guess the guys from Graveland are "13 year old immature virgins" also.

That is incredibly....stupid...hating someone for their preference in reaching orgasm. You make it sound like it actually effects you when Idoubt it really does.

Again, I don't hate them for being homosexuals, it's more their attitudes that I can't stand.

So let me guess, you talking about the stereotype of homosexuals? You hate the jewelry wearing, weird talkin, tight pants wearin types? What about people who are normal like anyone else and are gay? I know people like that, people who like lsayer, wear baggy pants, are 30 years old and still skate. You going to hate someone like that too?

Anyways, what do you guys think about people like me? (Read: Bisexual)

Everyone of my friends that has found out has said that they never would of guessed that I am. So are people with a normal attitude, but lik men, ok with you guys?

One more thing, any self-respecting man who enjoys other men's company (Read: me) won't try and get on any guy unless they know that their sexuality is similar. I've never so much as laid a finger on one of my straight guy friends in that sort of mannar. Even if I did become physically attracted to a man, same rules still apply, still gotta find out their personality and all that.

Alright, I'm tired of typing you fools.
 
I love music. And I love and value the freedom and security of such posting of opinions between unseen or unmet friends with common interests.
I have gone astray in coming to this pathetic discussion. I have wasted precious time here hoping to enlighten my depth of understanding for the human condition.
I hope everyone that has posted to this forum's subject matter reads my reply. Yes, I got sucked in, and yes I read all posts.

Lacking intelligence. Ignorant. No skill in reason. Stupid.

And as for you faggotcide... a quick analysis of your asinine comments, you seem to portray the textbook example of a person steeped in denial. A great part of hate itself is the sense of injury to one's self. Have you been injured, faggotcide? Have you been violated, faggotcide?
 
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Originally posted by Furious B
Real mature. I would have more respect for you people like you if you didn't post inane remarks like this, that totally ruin any creditably you have in a debate. This is just as asinine as any of Faggotcide's posts.

Me personally, I am closely related to Faggotcide as my views on homosexuals are concerned. I do find it revolting, but I don't hate them for that reason. Hell, I could care less about it, as long as I don't have to hear about it. They irritate me to no end as they pontificatly manifest their "pride." Not only have they pushed their agenda on most of you, but now no one can say ANYTHING bad about the gay community without being branded a bigot. I don't hate them for there sexual preference, but how they present themselves to the world is what I hate about them. All this acceptance and tolerance is just a facade to push their way of thinking on everyone. Just look at how you all reacted to Faggotcide. Of course, I don't think Faggotcide is the most intelligent person to eilicit this view point, but regardless, it's still his opinion. I also find it amusing that alot of you loathe christians and yet, if anyone, in any way shape or form despise homosexuality, they're automatically labeled a bigot or just simply stupid. Am I the only one that can see the hypocrisy in this? I also don't buy into this crap about how people are born with it. It is a CHOICE, simple as that. If the gay community would show some integrity and couth, I may be able to have some respect for them, but I don't foresee that changing anytime soon.

What do you mean, how we *all* reacted to Faggot? There are a lot of people reading this forum, and very few were concerned enough to reply - most of them probably just people who never internalised the Usenet maxim, "Don't Feed The Trolls".

Faggot is perfectly entitled to his opinion, of course, but we are all entitled to our opinions of him, as well.

Simply put, if you "despise homosexuality", then you *are* a bigot. That's what it means. A generalised hatred for a group of people based on a single aspect of their being, and not necessarily related to any actual knowledge of them. You are right that it is hypocritical to be anti-Christian while condemning homophobes, but they are equally bigoted, not equally justified. As for stupidity, that's open for debate and depends on the bigot. Stupidity is a question of why you believe something, not what you believe.

I don't think people are born gay, but I don't think they exactly choose it, either. Call it a misfire in psychosexual development - that "male bonding" thing that makes guys enjoy being in a sweaty locker room together overdevelops, or something like that. Look at it like this - you're not gay because gay sex disgusts you. Did you choose to feel that disgust? Were you one day thinking of what to do with your life, trying to decide which sexual orientation to follow, and decided to have your stomach turn at the idea of another man's scrotum brushing along your erogonous zones? I'm willing to bet it wasn't. Just like it wuoldn't have been a conscious decision if you had found yourself aroused, rather than disgusted, by that thought.
 
Originally posted by Furious B
Ignorance

\Ig"no*rance\, n. [F., fr. L. ignorantia.]

1. The condition of being ignorant; the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.

Now, if you can please divulge how I am "uneducated" or "uninformed" for not liking homosexuals?



So what are the facts then? Is it a fact now that it's wrong to dislike homosexuals?

I wasn't referring to your post. However, you are generalizing things as well. Saying all homosexuals have a lisp and act feminine is like saying everybody that listens to metal is a white male with long hair.
 
Bwhahahaha.....




"I do find it revolting, but I don't hate them for that reason."
Well, I don't see what's so gross about reaching orgasm in a different manner, but that is opinion, tis good you don't hate them for it though, many idiots make that mistake.



"Hell, I could care less about it, as long as I don't have to hear about it."
I'm not trying to justify them doing so, but think of the millions of dollors poured into sexual-themed ads and such. They have to hear about your sexuality TWENTY-FOLD what you have to hear of theirs.


"They irritate me to no end as they pontificatly manifest their "pride."
Not all gays do this. Ones that do, maybe they feel proud that they can tell people openly, which is stupid. You shouldn't feel pride for conquering ignorance of another, you should feel relieved.


"Not only have they pushed their agenda on most of you, but now no one can say ANYTHING bad about the gay community without being branded a bigot."
Only morons will think that about you. As long as you make it clear that you dislike their actions and not the actual person, then your fine. You can still dislike that person, just don't dislike him for being gay.




"I don't hate them for there sexual preference, but how they present themselves to the world is what I hate about them. All this acceptance and tolerance is just a facade to push their way of thinking on everyone."
Think of how it would be if everyone just accepted it. Most people would still be straight and being gay and such wouldn't be that big of a deal. It would just be like someone smoking or not.

"Just look at how you all reacted to Faggotcide. Of course, I don't think Faggotcide is the most intelligent person to eilicit this view point, but regardless, it's still his opinion."
You can't use that to justify things. Something can be an opinion and still be wrong. Something can be an opinion when it shouldn't be, and judging an entire person based on how they've chosen do reach an orgasm is incredibly ignorant and stupid.


" I also find it amusing that alot of you loathe christians and yet, if anyone, in any way shape or form despise homosexuality, they're automatically labeled a bigot or just simply stupid. Am I the only one that can see the hypocrisy in this?"
No, your not. It's ok to not agree with homosexuality, that is your choice. However it is not your place to deface someone because they are gay, injure them physically or mentally ect. If you have a friend and he is gay and he knows you and all, it's fine you joke about it with him. Your allowed to joke about things, homosexuality is one of them. Just how you are sensative of where you would say the word my pals, be sensative and how and when you joke around about gays, simple as that.


" I also don't buy into this crap about how people are born with it. It is a CHOICE, simple as that. If the gay community would show some integrity and couth, I may be able to have some respect for them, but I don't foresee that changing anytime soon."

I agree that it is a choice. I am bisexual and it is my choice. I find beauty if both women and men, simply put, and I think it is narrow-minded to limit myself to certain types of relationships with only one sex. I don't think I'd have anal sex with another male, but I wouldn't mind his sexual company. I'd still follow the same rules as with a girl, get to know them and all.

Also be aware that to be gay does not mean to be stereotypical gay. I'm sure plenty of, as am I, sick of guys walking around with their hand in that position, talking really gay, wearing skin-tight pants ect. I don't like anyone wearing skin tight pants. Don't think that someone is a stereotype faggot just because they are gay.
 
I wonder if calling homophobes idiots and ignorant is the same simple-mindedness and lack of acceptance as homophobes calling homosexuals scum.

Equal discrimination there.

Now for my opnions on things I hate. I hate dickheads. Dickheads can be gay, homophobic, christian, black, white, straight, monkeys, what the fuck ever.

I like people who are cool. And they could be in any of the above labels.

Anyone who can justify why they do and think things, which I can accept, will allow me like that person.

Some homophobes make some good points here, as do the people who are fighting for the homosexual way (in such a over-reactive way).

But in the end, it all comes down to opinion.

I think hating homosexuals for being exactly that is stupid, anyone who does so, in my opinion is a dickhead.

Faggotcide is a dickhead, I believe. I see no justification for his reasons, other than it being his opinion, which I can't accept, as it isn't my own.

Doesn't mean I am right though does it, it's just my opinion. And that is just his opinion. Hopefully we can all perhaps shutup about our opinions on this topic. It will never get resolved.

And Faggotcide is probably sitting back laughing at all the people who have typed up such a stupid thread, he has created something that I believe he wanted to create. His comments were to seek attention, and look what has happened.

And if I have contradicted myself anywhere, feel free to tell me. But I'll call you a dickhead.
 
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