lol This band only has one, maybe two, albums left in them. There's no time for singer-switching at this point. Charlie and Scott even stated they believe this will be the FINAL lineup, with the only remotely possible exception being the readmittance of Dan Spitz (probably in a temporary role).
Took a long road trip, listened to all John Bush era albums
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danaholica
Danazig
I'm sure they will ask Bush to tour with Joey for some kind of reunion tour in the future. The band has been big on the idea for quite some time.I think Bush would do it this time around,he has nothing to loose.
Honestly, I think that would be pretty fuckin' cool. Doubt it'll happen, though.
Thrashard
Whistler's father
Thrashard
Whistler's father
agreed! i think it has definitely to do with the music whether a label supports a band or not.
Thrashard
Whistler's father
his former band Boiler Room's album "Can't breathe" is far, far away from a 'classic Anthrax' sounding album.
Really? Get your facts straight. The reunion tour was a huge success. Most venues they booked sold out. In Los Angeles they even added a third show. This is without any major promotion to speak of.
LOL. Yeah right. John Bush is done in Anthrax. This is Anthrax's last shot to try an d regain their credibility after 10 years of garbage and changes to their sound.
Why do people honestly think John Bush is some vocal god? He is 'good' but not some super hero. He didn't do anything to take Anthrax to another level. The band all but had to break up during his era. They had to do a reunion tour just to pay the bills that the JB era caused.
Get over it Bush era fans. Go listen to the new Armored Saint. It sound better than Bushtrax anyways
This talk of Bushthrax potentially outselling Joeythrax is nonsense. It's not even worth debating.
As for the Dan Spitz returning talk, I think Rob is making the most of what he is given. Listen to the new songs. He's not given much room, yet he rocks on Fight 'Em and absolutely kills on Vampyres. They should let Rob flex a bit more.
As for the Dan Spitz returning talk, I think Rob is making the most of what he is given. Listen to the new songs. He's not given much room, yet he rocks on Fight 'Em and absolutely kills on Vampyres. They should let Rob flex a bit more.
Stormwatch
Cock.
I like ALL the Anthrax albums, but I think Stomp is one of their very best. I love that album. SoE and PoT will always be my favourites, but Stomp is still a great record.
I like Stomp, but the Butcher Bros. butchered the production on that album. Charlie and Scott probably liked Cypress Hill and having been involved with the Last Action Hero sdtk., which inlcuded CH, decided to give that production team a try. MISTAKE! They recorded some very scratchy guitar tones and muffled vox, ruining what could've been a decent follow-up to SOWN.
Total_Annihilation
Speed Demon
I think it's funny that I've seen some of you complain that despite lower album sales, Anthrax was better than bands like Megadeth and Metallica who outsold them by far, yet you use the fact that the Belladonna records outsold the Bush records to justify that anyone who likes the Bush records is wrong and is not a real Anthrax fan, is an idiot, etc...blah blah blah...
FACT: Music is a matter of taste and opinion. I for one like the Bush albums for what they are. Yes, they did not outsell the Belladonna era albums. Do I care? No. It's what the music does for me the moment I hear it. And I know I'm not alone in expressing this sentiment. I wish some of you here could look at it that way instead of just continuing to point out Anthrax's hard financial times and decreasing album sales in the 90's just to prove that the Belladonna era was better once and for all.
FACT: Music is a matter of taste and opinion. I for one like the Bush albums for what they are. Yes, they did not outsell the Belladonna era albums. Do I care? No. It's what the music does for me the moment I hear it. And I know I'm not alone in expressing this sentiment. I wish some of you here could look at it that way instead of just continuing to point out Anthrax's hard financial times and decreasing album sales in the 90's just to prove that the Belladonna era was better once and for all.
Didn't SOWN outsell any Joey era album? I really can care less about album sales either.
What I really care about is the music. And the music just went from a unique Thrash metal to generic grove rock. They changed because they were scared of Metal music going dead. I don't like the albums after POT, especially after SOWN. Stomp is a terrible album and so is Volume 8. I don't care who is singing on them. WCFYA had a few good songs but also some really bad songs, actually a lot of bad songs. More bad than good.
The over all sound of Anthrax changed drastically and it just doesn't even compare to the brilliance of the Joey era. Again nothing to do with the vocalist just the song writing, productions, and over all vibe of those albums.
To me Persistence of Time was a new direction for Anthrax. It took the semi 'comedy' out of the band and focuses more on social issues and more serious subject matters. Joey's voice on POT was not as high pitched and "goofy" as on some of the older Anthrax albums. They were at the prime of their career after that touring cycle. Then they fire Joey, change their sound and almost had to call it quits if it wasn't for Joey agreeing to come back and save their ass.
If they kept Joey and kept playing the same basic sound from where POT left off I can guarantee you they would still be up there with Slayer, Maiden, Megadeth, etc. But instead they decided to change it up and try to stay with the current musical trends and it fucked them.
Though I can't wait for a new album, just scared that without Danny Spitz it might not be up to par.... Time will tell
Social Distortion
The Voice of Reason
Not trying to pick a fight, but I'm interested to hear your opinion on which are the good songs and which are the bad?
EerieVon
Member
Danny actually had very little to do with the actual composition of the older material, except the solos. And if you have any doubt of where his head is at just check out deux monkey or whatever its called
John Bush is a good singer, but I can't stand his voice. Too nasal, and when he tries to throw out the Phil wannabe shit he really sounds like a douchebag. As for my thoughts on the albums:
SOWN is the most listenable, very repetitive lyrically but it does succeed in energy and anger. Stomp 442 is a pile of commercial shit, half-assed grunge. Vol 8 is even worse, some of the worst attempts at humor I've ever heard, along with really shitty lyrics. I despise WCFYA, just really fucking dull. The attempts at Nu-Metal are just unbearable.
SOWN is the most listenable, very repetitive lyrically but it does succeed in energy and anger. Stomp 442 is a pile of commercial shit, half-assed grunge. Vol 8 is even worse, some of the worst attempts at humor I've ever heard, along with really shitty lyrics. I despise WCFYA, just really fucking dull. The attempts at Nu-Metal are just unbearable.
No worries. Its all good. Everyone has opinions. Here are my comments from these songs:
What Doesn't Die - Good song
Superhero - Good song even though the main riff is semi nu-metal. Don't like the verse vocals with that effect and Red Hot Chile Peppers vibe. Chorus good.
Refuse To Be Denied - Not bad. Doesn't do much for me but not bad in a commercialized metal type of way
Safe Home - Can't even believe this is Anthrax
Any Place But Here - Sounds like Metallica Load. But the Chorus "Come On Come On" sounds very similar to AC/DC - Money Talks. Catchy but come on Anthrax wtf?
Nobody Knows - Horrid - enough said
Strap It On - Sounds like Disturbed mixed with Def Leppard. Only good thing is a semi cool Solo. Is this really Anthrax?
Black Dahlia - Not horrible but Lame Verses - If the Blast Beats would continue throughout the song it would be pretty sweet.
Caddilac Rock Box - Utter Shit
Taking The Music Back - What the fuck is this?
Crash - Good song because nothing is going on
Think About An End - If I was gay I'd like this song. Though there is a decent riff halfway through. But over all another half assed "Anthrax" song
WCFYA - OK for a Grove rock song. But for an ANTHRAX song.. no bueno
I agree with you for the most part. I never noticed the Phil Anselmo wannabe shit. But watching old video clips from that era it does look like he is even trying to look like him on stage. Musically you can tell that they were trying to go more in a power grove type direction like Pantera.
Unfortunately nobody can ever touch Phil Anselmo. He is a legend and can never be imitated. If you try you will fail. That cover of Fucking Hostile proved that.
I hear you on the Nu Metal attempts. I just don't get it. But hey what Do I know =)
Stormwatch
Cock.
You're just full of complete shit. Generic grove rock? I assume you mean generic groove rock, and you're full of shit.
For one thing, they were hardly a unique thrash band, unless you count stuff like "I'm The Man" and the bermuda shorts which were stupid anyway. They were a generic thrash band - similar to Overkill. Just a lot better.
They went from being a generic thrash band - if a great one - to being a generic metal band. If you must use labels, at least use the right ones.
Anthrax a "rock" band? Aye, okay.
You're nearly as annoying as that 6er cunt.
