Top 10 all-time favourite Metal albums

Actual elitism is people who think that everything that's not metal sucks.

Actual elitism is people who think that metal stopped being worth listening to at a certain point and that anything newer is garbage.

Actual elitism is people who don't see why you'd listen to anything other than the top 10-20 or so albums in a genre, because they're just that good. (The ANUS principle.)
 
Elitism is people complaining about Pantera being knuckle-dragging tough-guy butt-metal while extolling the virtues of Exodus or Overkill. Elitism is people complaining about Meshuggah how repeats two riffs per song while considering Transylvanian Hunger a masterpiece.
 
Behirit is a joke and Summoning are massively overhyped.

says the Deathspell Omega slappy.

Summoning has basically made one song 100 times. Deathspell Omega, at its best, is profound and beyond the reach some humans.

Elitism is people complaining about Pantera being knuckle-dragging tough-guy butt-metal while extolling the virtues of Exodus or Overkill. Elitism is people complaining about Meshuggah how repeats two riffs per song while considering Transylvanian Hunger a masterpiece.

And people single me out as being a cunt about music. I literally laughed so hard my roommate woke up. :lol:
 
Pantera is not as bad as metal fans make them out to be, but they are one of those bands that get you into metal or you hear first. It's new at first when you have never heard metal, but then you look into metal and start to find music you enjoy more. Some people just listen to Pantera,Slayer, or Metallica and stop there and don't look into the genre, these bands fans are similar to people that like Black Sabbath or AC/DC. They're not bad bands by any means.
 
Music is art, art is subjective, you're objectively wrong.

How you interpret it is subjective, but what it is is not subjective at all. Are you really prepared to say, by way of example, that no one can objectively claim Beethoven's 9th symphony as better quality than the new Taylor Swift single? It shouldn't be difficult to make an empirical claim about art entirely independent of how it resonates with you. Most people avoid this because it makes them feel uncomfortable, moreso with music than anything else.
 
How you interpret it is subjective, but what it is is not subjective at all. Are you really prepared to say, by way of example, that no one can objectively claim Beethoven's 9th symphony as better quality than the new Taylor Swift single? It shouldn't be difficult to make an empirical claim about art entirely independent of how it resonates with you. Most people avoid this because it makes them feel uncomfortable, moreso with music than anything else.

Choosing two examples with stark differences doesn't change my view on art, no.
It's still subjective, as horribly uncultured as that may sound.
 
It's ok. It doesn't sound uncultured. It's an interesting opinion to have.

Can I frame it another way and ask on what grounds one can not claim that Beethoven's 9th is better quality than Taylor Swift?
 
I would rather listen to Taylor Swift. I don't really give a shit if Beethoven is considered a higher form of art or whatever because I don't get anything from listening too it. And I don't like music like that.
 
It's ok. It doesn't sound uncultured. It's an interesting opinion to have.

Can I frame it another way and ask on what grounds one can not claim that Beethoven's 9th is better quality than Taylor Swift?

I guess on the grounds that you'd only be speaking for yourself? You could most definitely claim that, I claim things like that all the time.
 
I would rather listen to Taylor Swift. I don't really give a shit if Beethoven is considered a higher form of art or whatever because I don't get anything from listening too it. And I don't like music like that.

You would rather listen to Taylor Swift than Beethoven? Did the man rape one of your ancestors or something, to make you hate him so much?
 
It's ok. It doesn't sound uncultured. It's an interesting opinion to have.

Can I frame it another way and ask on what grounds one can not claim that Beethoven's 9th is better quality than Taylor Swift?

It all depends on what your criteria are. For example, if your criteria are quality music is: accesible, catchy, has memorable lyrics, and the pieces range from 3-4 minutes, then Taylor Swift might win.

There are no deductions that can be done to prove which music is better. We can measure complexity, proficiency, and cohesion, but we cannot measure "quality" without providing an antecedent.
 
It all depends on what your criteria are. For example, if your criteria are quality music is: accesible, catchy, has memorable lyrics, and the pieces range from 3-4 minutes, then Taylor Swift might win.

There's music that meets all those criteria without being obnoxiously saccharine like what little I've heard from Taylor Swift (and I'm pretty sure that's representative of her work as a whole). If you're going by the criterion of "most likely to induce a diabetic coma", then I suppose Taylor Swift would be a frontrunner.
 
the most acclaimed material by those bands bears barely any relation to either pantera or that description, especially exodus. try harder

cutting your palm and drinking your blood
the power that few others dare
you feed the need to go out and kill
the same need that your blood brother shares


or

get in our way and we're going to take your life
kick in your face and rape and murder your wife
plunder your town your homes they'll burn to the ground
you won't hear a sound until my knife's in your back


or

fight for what you believe to be right
cru5h'ng with all your might
I laugh at their pitiful cries
they run from the fire in my eyes

nothing can save them now
you've learned a lesson in violence
get on your knees and bow
or learn a lesson in violence


or

your gathered here tonight
to heed our metal cry
obeying all our wills
all others you defy
a wall of sonic sound
with amps turned up to ten
our legions are advancing
to battle once again


The entire first side of Bonded By Blood is little more than fist-raising, ego-pumping machismo of FUCKING SOLIDARITY BROS and killing FUCKING WIMPS BROS. I'm assuming that you're elitist enough to pretend that it's their only acclaimed album.