TRIGGER Intro Video and NEWS

[drew_drummer]

Hi Drew, you can manipulate the envelopes with the knobs.

You'll be able to save articulations of the dynamic and velocity settings and save them as articulations. Check out the video, in the stock Slate stuff it has different one click settings for stuff like that. I hope thats what you meant.

We're still working out the details on full version release.

alex

Hey Alex,

I don't think that's quite what I meant. What I meant was, I'd like to have maximum dynamics, but between midi velocities 30-110... as an example. You can shift the minimum velocity, but you can't seem to do the higher.

Does that make sense?

I know the knobs control the envelope, but the graphic is pretty

 

[Methull]

You can shift the minimum velocity, but you can't seem to do the higher.

Does that make sense?

I hope we'll see this in future updates...

 

[Slate]

Drew, I see what you mean now. Send this as a request to slatedigital.com/support and the programmers will receive it.

Alex

 

[006]

What I meant was, I'd like to have maximum dynamics, but between midi velocities 30-110... as an example. You can shift the minimum velocity, but you can't seem to do the higher.

Good call, I would also like to see this, but I won't personally die if it's not implemented.

 

[Joshua Wickman]

Im trying to demo trigger and I keep getting a error while loading protools about plugin being damaged or can not find Ilok key. I checked my ilok like 5 times and the key is on my ilok. Ive also tried installing Trigger like 5 times as well and nothing seems to work. Any Advice?

 

[Slate]

what version of PT

 

[greyskull]

umm just use trigger as a mono>stereo insert.

the suppression control doesn't work then. well.. its not there.

Mono instance of trigger

Mono-stereo and stereo instance of trigger.

the supression control is only on the stereo

 

[AshM]

The question that keeps not being answered on here and Gearslutz is...

When can we buy this??

Just trying to figure out if I'll be using this on my next few mixes.

the suppression control doesn't work then. well.. its not there.

the supression control is only on the stereo

That's right greyskull, the leakage suppression ONLY works on a stereo aux as you have to feed it both what you want to trigger (send panned left) and what you want to suppress (send panned right).

 

[Slate]

Hi greyskull, the suppression function only works when the plugin is in STEREO on a stereo aux in PT because it uses one of the dual sides as the sidechain

 

[AshM]

Steven! Any release date?!

 

[greyskull]

Hi greyskull, the suppression function only works when the plugin is in STEREO on a stereo aux in PT because it uses one of the dual sides as the sidechain

gotya slate.
makes sense. just a case of modifying my work flow i reckon!
just use it on an aux and send as opposed to putting on a track.
makes sense.

 

[AdamWathan]

Playing around more today and it doesn't seem to report it's latency correctly in Reaper because it is flamming like crazy compared to the original. I printed the track and it seems to be out by about 20ms, not the 11ms you guys reported. I want to go and line up the first hit but apparently "that doesn't work" according to you guys, so how do I line up the hits to be in phase if Trigger is the only thing smart enough to know what "in phase" looks like and I am not allowed to do it by eye?

I lined up the first hit by eye and ear until it sounded tight because I had no choice since for some reason it won't render with the latency corrected, but even then, a few snare hits later it started to sound untight so I went and checked...

That is NOT in phase I don't care what anyone says. The crests and troughs of the beginning of the wave form are OPPOSITE because of how far out it is, and it sounds much flammier than lining them up so that they peak at the same place. I lined it up manually like so...

And now listen to the difference for yourself...

http://www.adamwathan.com/trigger/trigger.wav

http://www.adamwathan.com/trigger/manual.wav

I really want this plugin to work guys but so far I am not impressed.

Everyone thought drumagog was amazing at first too, I feel like it's only a matter of time before the initial excitement wears off and people start using it on a regular basis to find that it's no better... I don't think any plugin will EVER be able to accurately place samples, there's just too many variables and a computer is never going to be able to "listen" to the track and figure out what sounds tight so I'm not blaming you guys, I'm just saying, this whole lining things up manually deal is a necessary evil and I don't see it ever going away. I am still going to buy Trigger just for the ability to use all of the velocities/layers/articulations because apTrigga doesn't support that and Drumagog is really bad with MIDI i/o, but I still don't think people should be getting too excited about the magical ability to place samples correctly because it's never going to happen...

 

[Lasse Lammert]

I lined up the first hit by eye and ear until it sounded tight because I had no choice since for some reason it won't render with the latency corrected, but even then, a few snare hits later it started to sound untight so I went and checked...

That is NOT in phase I don't care what anyone says. The crests and troughs of the beginning of the wave form are OPPOSITE because of how far out it is, and it sounds much flammier than lining them up so that they peak at the same place. I lined it up manually like so...

this is the exact reason why drumagog sucks and Aptrigga rules...
a pity, I hoped TRIGGER would be as phase consistent as aptrigga.....
well, I'll try trigger myself before I decide, but right now it looks like I'll have to stay with aptrigga

 

[AdamWathan]

Here is another example, I don't care about the "use your ears" thing because it won't report it's latency correctly and everything flams for me, so even after lining it up by ear, I get this...

Can you PLEASE explain to me how it is remotely possible that BOTH of those hits are "phase accurate"? They are triggering the same snare sample, from the same snare drum, so the transients should line up very similarly, even if they don't line up "sample accurate" but look at how much differently Trigger placed the first hit compared to the second hit! The natural snare track looks almost the same on both hits, shouldn't Trigger put the sample in the same place for both? Sounds like crap over here guys :/

 

[AdamWathan]

Here's apTrigga vs Trigger...

They both got hits 1, 3 and 4 correct, but Trigger was very late on hit 2 while apTrigga nailed it, no tweaking in apTrigga whatsoever other than setting the input gain correctly, while with Trigger I had to play around with input, detail and sensitivity to detect all 4 hits there at all :/

 

[Lasse Lammert]

not even drumrehab can get close to aptrigga's consistency....
so yeah looks like aptrigga will be the only usable (for me!!) sample replacer on the market ...I was so looking forward to trigger...bummer

 

[Methull]

I still don't think people should be getting too excited about the magical ability to place samples correctly because it's never going to happen...

Ha-ha, you again posting screenshots (sound example with only one hit it's not an example). If you can't get how plugin works you can just PM me. A few posts ago I offered you to make a Reaper project. My offer still stands.

Man, really, when I see hundred posts like "this plug is great" and then one post like "plug sucks, I'm not impressed", then I think that you the one who doing something wrong.

You just throwing shit on plugin posting your dull screeshots. There is screeshots with TRIGGER settings? There is sound examples? Reaper has latency compensation, but you wrote you shifted track after printing. Maybe you need to setup your host properly?

Personally I don't understand the purpose of your posts. If you just want to throw some shit on plugin, then it's alright. But if want to help developers, you can send them tracking, your system specifications, and screenshot with your settings. Maybe your settings is worg, or maybe you trying to trigger a jazz snare track played using brushes with a lot of sweeps.

Maybe you've got the magic snare tracking that kicks TRIGGER down, so you can make the world better by sending it to support team.

not even drumrehab can get close to aptrigga's consistency....
so yeah looks like aptrigga will be the only usable (for me!!) sample replacer on the market ...I was so looking forward to trigger...bummer

Maybe you need to try plugin yourself?

 

[drew_drummer]

blah blah blah

Dude. Stfu. Adam is making some valid points, and his images are evidence to the validity of his statements. This doesn't mean I think Trigger sucks or anything - it's good for my needs. But don't discount his evidence just because you're either a troll or a fanboy.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

Maybe you need to try plugin yourself?

I most certainly will.

not getting your defensive behaviour though....if you wanna stay on this forum please change your behaviour!
the screenshots show clearly a problem.

 

[Ermz]

Aptrigga's accuracy looks amazing.