Vista got a big thumbs down from me this weekend

[Executioner213]

(Unless someone wants to give me a few thousand dollars for a Mac, spare me the "You should get a Mac" waste, otherwise I'd have one).
Friday morning, I had my laptop connected to the net so I could do a quick search for something while I was packing up to go do a session 200 miles away with a band. While I had it connected, Windows Update updated something which I assume was a driver involved with DirectX. It did this without my prior knowledge...

When I got to the place where I was to do my recording, I got everything set up and was ready to go...loaded Nuendo and on the splash screen, it would freeze when it was trying to load the "ASIO Directx Full Duplex Driver". This is the driver I usually select when I don't have my FP10's hooked up so I can do mixing/editing without hauling the FP10's everywhere. I did everything to try to get that to work, looked for any possible updates or troubleshooting just so I could get it to not select that driver at startup and nothing worked. I had to do a system recovery and reinstall everything just to do my session, and damn near lost a whole day of work due to this.

I was not happy...fuck DirectX and fuck Vista.

 

[Notuern]

I hate to be a "party pooper", but if it was caused by Windows Update, its your own fault(Leaving automatic updates on is a bad idea.).
Not sayin' that Vista is that good though.

I my self hooked up an external soundcard to my computer, and suddenly EVERYTHING started to crash untill I got bluescreen. ;X
Full reinstall was the only thing that could solve my problem. D;

 

[kev]

Vista is a bit of a bitch still. XP is great though, near enough rock solid these days unless you decide to do something silly.

 

[Randyisgod15]

When Vista came out a friend gave me a copy to give it a shot. I used it for about 3-4 months, and i found it really annoying. My laptop would lag like a mofo (2G Memory) and using Cubase was a waste of time because of all the latency. Went back to XP, no problem. Not that Vista a terrible operating system, but XP is where the heart is i suppose. I suggest sticking with XP if you're going the Windows route.

 

[Executioner213]

It got all laggy on me back in July, so I did a system refresh then...must have forgot to kick off the auto updates then.

The 'top came with Vista, so thats what I've been using. I've been thinking of buying a new hard drive for it, so I can keep the installed Vista shit for later, and installing XP on that...was also thinking of putting more RAM in it while I was dickin around with it: it has 2GB, but you could always have more.

The worst part about buying a computer anywhere anymore is nobody gives you a fuckin disc, they just load a partition with a recovery. Fuck the recovery shit, I'd rather have a copy of the OS. I wanted a laptop for the portability, and in hindsight it sucks because of all the pre-loaded software they put on it (as well as in the recovery partition).

 

[kev]

whats wrong with torrenting the OS, albeit a pain in the rectum?

 

[Executioner213]

I don't trust the most recent ones to work. Been an issue in the past. The point being...you pay for the software when you buy the computer and they don't give you a hard copy. That = dildos!

 

[Notuern]

You guys get lag issues with Vista?
Its alot faster then XP for me(But the stability, oooh my goood! >,<). o,0

 

[006]

The worst part about buying a computer anywhere anymore is nobody gives you a fuckin disc, they just load a partition with a recovery. Fuck the recovery shit, I'd rather have a copy of the OS. I wanted a laptop for the portability, and in hindsight it sucks because of all the pre-loaded software they put on it (as well as in the recovery partition).

All things completely opposite with Macs.



Had to do it

~006

 

[Pedro Teixeira]

All things completely opposite with Macs.



Had to do it

~006

Yeah, but with 1600€ you buy a Intel i7 quadcore, 6gb ram, 1tb hdd, hell even 2x ATI or NV crossfire/SLI, 22" Widescreen LCD. While with 2300€ you get a brand new macbook pro with 320gb, 4gb ram, dual core and an NV 9600M GT... and let's not talk about the Mac Pro!

 

[006]

I'm not even going to respond to that how I would like to, we can avoid a pointless Mac vs. PC debate and stay on topic here. Just know that you should get a little more experience with Macs before you compare specs and prices...

~006

 

[Pedro Teixeira]

You're right this is off-topic, but I had a Macbook Pro and sold it for a Desktop. I think Vista is still pretty premature for audio, XP still beats it and is much more stable.. I've had tons of problems with Vista

 

[_RiseInside_]

I have a similar experience:

Nuendo always goes wrong during the splash screen when trying to load Rme´s Fireface 800 asio driver while the card isn´t hooked up to the computer. This happens to me in every Win xp i used. The only solution is connecting the bloody Fireface, load nuendo, change driver in device setup, quit nuendo, disconnect Fireface, Load up Nuendo again with success. (I don´t hot connect or disconnect firewire devices. Always with both devices disconnected. Just a detail though very important.)

 

[JBroll]

I hate to be a "party pooper", but if it was caused by Windows Update, its your own fault(Leaving automatic updates on is a bad idea.).
Not sayin' that Vista is that good though.

I my self hooked up an external soundcard to my computer, and suddenly EVERYTHING started to crash untill I got bluescreen. ;X
Full reinstall was the only thing that could solve my problem. D;

Not to be a "power user", "UNIX-type elitist bastard", "guy who has spent three quarters of his life fixing computers", or anything like that... but the general rule with services should be that as many things as possible should be disabled until they are manually turned on. Windows fails just about all around and the fact that the machine can bork itself without a single prompt is just fucked.

Jeff

 

[Notuern]

Not to be a "power user", "UNIX-type elitist bastard", "guy who has spent three quarters of his life fixing computers", or anything like that... but the general rule with services should be that as many things as possible should be disabled until they are manually turned on. Windows fails just about all around and the fact that the machine can bork itself without a single prompt is just fucked.

Well, I spent three quarters of my life fixing computers as well, and ive never had "automatic updates" activated(Meaning that it has been disabled from the very start.).

But sure, Windows has alot of stuff activated from the start that should be disabled, but automatic updates is not one of them.

 

[JBroll]

I was under the impression that critical updates were automatically enabled, and that many vendors had their own ideas about what should be default. Even then, it shouldn't be silent - the fact that it didn't give any kind of log file or detailed notice (and no, a system crash isn't a detailed notice any more than DON'T DO THAT is a clear warning sign) is also fucked. Windows fails, period.

Jeff

 

[JonWormwood]

I get along with Vista quite well, just not for audio.

 

[Executioner213]

Thats just it, it's done me fine as a browser and every-day-task format...but it's pissed me off as far as my audio needs goes.

 

[Notuern]

I was under the impression that critical updates were automatically enabled, and that many vendors had their own ideas about what should be default. Even then, it shouldn't be silent - the fact that it didn't give any kind of log file or detailed notice (and no, a system crash isn't a detailed notice any more than DON'T DO THAT is a clear warning sign) is also fucked. Windows fails, period.

Yeah, we all know Windows sucks, no need to have sand in your vagina.

 

[Unavailable]

I've had zero problems with Vista and recording audio.