What are BLACK METAL and DEATH METAL in true essence?

[unknown]

the only bands in that list that have dabbled in death metal are Darkthrone (as addressed earlier) and maybe Immortal. Their last few albums were black thrash, so it's a matter of syntax er whatever. I've never heard/seen Burzum or Satyricon classified as death metal. The only othre genre Burzum has wandered into is ambient with the last two releases.

 

[TylerTheNuke]

Darkthrone released three albums that truly captured the essence of black metal. A blaze in the northern sky (less so then the other two due to the fact that black metal was still being defined as a genre when it came out. I hear it was revolutionary, but I am not a BM historian), under a funeral moon (more black and really is what black metal is all about), and transylvanian hunger (which leans more ambiant, but is a masterpiece still and definatly has the essence of black metal). Also verygreat metal is Burzum. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is the album that I feel captures the essence of black metal much better then true black metal. This leans on the ambiant side too. It is very highly regarded and in my humble opinion is the best metal album I own.

 

[Susperia]

Black Metal: Bathory- Under the Sign

Death Metal: Morbid Angel- Altars of Madness

 

[dill_the_devil]

Some death metal albums that pretty much define the genre between them:

Morbid Angel: Covenant
Cannibal Corpse: Vile
Obituary: Slowly We Rot
Death: Scream Bloody Gore
Deicide: Once Upon The Cross
Suffocation: Pierced From Within

Some black metal albums that pretty much define the genre between them:

Darkthrone: Transilvanian Hunger
Emperor: Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk
Mayhem: De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Immortal: Pure Holocaust
Burzum: Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Satyricon: Nemesis Divina

 

[MasterOLightning]

Altars of Madness is THE death metal album.

Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger and Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse are basically the essence of black metal to me.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Black Metal: Bathory- Under the Sign

Death Metal: Morbid Angel- Altars of Madness

You are correct!

 

[Thoth-Amon]

A question then: Bands such as Burzum, Darkthrone, Mayhem, Immortal, Satyricon; are they classed as Black metal or death metal...and, i know tihs is hard to answer, but why would they be classed as one or the other?

Black without question.

 

[Carcassian]

Yeah, forgot about that, but that doesn't make them death metal, or make my post less funny,

I'm not sure that anything could have made your post less funny.

Death metal - true essence:

Though I am sick of saying it;

Carcass - Necroticism, is the true, perfect reflection of a death metal album.

Though I don't know much about Black Metal, it seems to me in terms of atmosphere (which is what I understand superior BM to be about), you still can't really beat DMDS (Mayhem).

 

[Ender Rises]

I'm not sure that anything could have made your post less funny.

Agreed.
Someday I'm gonna DL me some Carcass... someday...

 

[Carcassian]

Make it today, Ender.

What else are you going to be doing? Growing hair and bumming ?

 

[Ender Rises]

Methinks so. But I got enough DL'ed shit to sort through.

 

[Carcassian]

Whatever you've got to sort through, it's 99.9% sure not to be as good as Carcass.

 

[Ender Rises]

At the moment probably not, it's mostly Bathory, Behemoth, Pantera, Jerry Cantrell, Metallica and Dragonforce, of which I haven't given 60% a good listening to. It's on the top of the list for the next wave, though. It may be added to the current pile, I don't know.

 

[unknown]

Whatever you've got to sort through, it's 99.9% sure not to be as good as Carcass.

what would be the 0.1%?

 

[Carcassian]

I don't know, but there's always the (slim) chance that something I haven't heard yet will top Carcass.

Do you see ?

 

[Ender Rises]

Like there is the slim chance that some grunge out there is better than Alice in Chains. The chance of that is considerably lower, though.

 

[metal_wrath]

Carcass were not that good, Dragonforce are horrible, Pantera sucks, Peer-to-peer downloading is for n00bs....

 

[Carcassian]

1) Carcass were not that good,2) Dragonforce are horrible, 3)Pantera sucks, 4)Peer-to-peer downloading is for n00bs....

1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Not really.
4. No opinion.

Note: To troll effectively, it is often best to use humour. If you're going to turn up to a battle of wits, may I advise you not to turn up empty handed?

 

[cookiecutter]

Carcassian for President

 

[Mort Divine]

Carcass were not that good, Dragonforce are horrible, Pantera sucks, Peer-to-peer downloading is for n00bs....

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. Agreed.
4. Not Agreed.