Albums You Would Consider "Art"
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SouthernTrendkill
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Yeah, with all due respect, I don't think Mozart can touch the stuff I listen to. I think the whole idea of High-Culture and Low-Culture is just about the most pathetically elitist and unintelligent view of art that anyone could arrive upon. Just because Shakespeare is Shakespeare doesn't mean it's superior to Michael Crichton. Just because Citizen Kane is called the greatest movie ever by stuffy old farts doesn't mean that it's superior to Rambo. Disagree with me if you want.
It's not that I think 'simple' entertainment is necessarily equal to 'complex' entertainment, it's that I think low-art has as much worthy and complex intellectual content as the high-art, and that if you overanalyze virtually anything to the extent that high-culture supporters overanalyze Shakespeare and all the enforced classics, anything would seem like genius. I think art gets its content from the interpreter, never from the artist. It just depends on how deep you choose to look into it.
The only things that I listen to which I think might apply to a high-culture attitude towards music might be things like Pink Floyd and Neil Young albums like Tonight's The Night and On The Beach. But even that stuff is probably considered low-culture...
That's enough of me being a dick though, the stuff I'm most proud of owning are albums like The Great Southern Trendkill by Pantera and Parallels of Infinite Torture by Disgorge.
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It's not that I think 'simple' entertainment is necessarily equal to 'complex' entertainment, it's that I think low-art has as much worthy and complex intellectual content as the high-art, and that if you overanalyze virtually anything to the extent that high-culture supporters overanalyze Shakespeare and all the enforced classics, anything would seem like genius. I think art gets its content from the interpreter, never from the artist. It just depends on how deep you choose to look into it.
The only things that I listen to which I think might apply to a high-culture attitude towards music might be things like Pink Floyd and Neil Young albums like Tonight's The Night and On The Beach. But even that stuff is probably considered low-culture...
That's enough of me being a dick though, the stuff I'm most proud of owning are albums like The Great Southern Trendkill by Pantera and Parallels of Infinite Torture by Disgorge.
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ShredHeadJHJ
oh noes itz a opinionn
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ShredHeadJHJ
oh noes itz a opinionn
hibernal_dream
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Err.. are you guys okay?
Mozart is to Darkthrone as Tolstoy is to JK Rowling. Seriously, there's not a whole lot of judgment necessary here.
Mozart is to Darkthrone as Tolstoy is to JK Rowling. Seriously, there's not a whole lot of judgment necessary here.
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I'm well aware of your guys' cliche' biases. It makes sense that you'd also fall in line with the conformist elite dogma of the high-class dictation... even though according to High-Culture, every metal song ever is a steaming pile of neanderthal shit.
hibernal_dream
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Are those my only two options - follow blindly the upper class or defy it? What about genuinely thinking Mozart is greater art, or is that not an option?
Seditious
GodSlayer
lol I don't hate Pantera or CoB, but Simon Boswell is easily the better artist... (he's just one of those contemporary composers, known for movie scores n shit)
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
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Houses Ov Mercury
Pop music (boy bands, Britney Spears, etc.) is not art because most of it is written by other people. Anyone who creates their own music using ALL their own ideas (or incorporates ideas of already finished works into their own with permission) is an ARTIST. Anyone who does not is an entertainer.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
I don't think that's necessarily true. Some is meant to be entertainment rather than art...
Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse - basically a musical painting.
Dark Tranquility - The Gallery - Fairly poetic and whatnot, music is pretty moody
Emperor - Prometheus - The Discipline of Fire and Demise - brilliant piece of art
Topic is bad, imo...
V.V.V.V.V.
Houses Ov Mercury
Britney Spears =/= art, her music is not necessarily "hers." It is usually the intellectual property of a producer. Most pop musicians (as in, popular music, top 40 shit) do not write their own music unless they are an actual band (Brand New, that kinda shit, which is art because they made it and it says in the liner notes that they did). If Timbaland produces your album, the music is not your art. "Produced by" in popular music basically means "music written by"..."writing songs" to most people means "writing lyrics." Kind of a pity. The lyrics may be literature (poetry, which is a form of art I suppose it could be argued), but the music is not by the person/boy band/whatever who the record is credited to, it's the "intellectual property" of the "producer."
In short, top 40 music that isn't written by actual people who know how to WRITE MUSIC is fucking gay as hell.
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