Black Metal.

[mutantllama]

I'm intimidated by the length of the album that first song appearson, but maybe I'll buy it at some point.

Can anyone recommend newer black metal that is either closer to old school or has influences from more traditional metal styles? I also want a credible list of newer black metal that is worth hearing even if it isn't in that umbrella.

Mainly referring to people like @Phylactery and @no country for old wainds that like a lot of the same stuff that I already like in old school black metal and elsewhere.

Check out Negative Plane's first album.

 

[Phylactery]

Can anyone recommend newer black metal that is either closer to old school or has influences from more traditional metal styles?

These aren't exactly new but you might not be familiar with them. The first 2 are quite Mercyful Fate Influenced.

Bewitched - Dragonflight



Night Conquers Day - Rebellion is the Art of Survival (Their first album The First Snowfall is also good.)



Agatus - The Weaving Fate



Zemial - In Monumentum



There is also newer stuff like Midnight's Satanic Royalty that is like a modern take on Venom. I'm not particularly fond of it, but many tasteful people seem to like it.

I also want a credible list of newer black metal that is worth hearing even if it isn't in that umbrella.

Some newer black metal that I like:

Panphage - Storm
Averse Sefira - Tetragrammatical Astygmata, Advent Parallax
Katharsis -VVorld VVithout End, Fourth Reich
Nocternity - Onyx
Primordial - The Gathering Wilderness
Mgla - With Hearts Towards None

I'll also second Mutantllama's recommendation of Negative Plane's Et in Saecula Saeculorum.

Edit: Forgot Mgla.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Thank you. I have the Zemial album since CASSETTEISGOD recommended it a while ago. Most of the rest is totally new.

 

[Phylactery]

I thought you might have already heard of them from CIG. He's a bit of a fanboy.

Let me know if any of these appeal to you. I think you'll like the Bewitched most.

 

[Phylactery]

Carnal Malefactor is godly. That riff after orthodox singing part...

A lot of people seem to cite this riff as amazing. It's my least favourite part of the song actually. I much prefer everything that comes before it and when they return back to that melody after the riff you're talking about.

I think the vocals are one of the weaker parts of modern DSO. He tries to sound passionate and emotional but fails for the most part imo. I don't think they're bad and they are quite unique, I just think they could be better suited to the music at times.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

I thought you might have already heard of them from CIG. He's a bit of a fanboy.

Let me know if any of these appeal to you. I think you'll like the Bewitched most.

Bewitched, Night Conquers Day and Agatus are cool. I'll get to the rest later.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Surely the actual 'phase 1' is the style found on Infernal Battles (which is hella generic and not especially interesting) and Inquisitors of Satan (still generic but loaded with riffs)?

Then there's the Manifestations stuff (which is awesome and seemingly totally overlooked by most) which is like, as the dates should suggest, a bridge from their original sound to the SMRC sound.

Yeah there's two ways to look at it. Phase 1 is the Darkthrone worship material, SMRC is the transition album, and then Kenose onward is the technical era. Or you can read SMRC as the pinnacle of Phase 1. I'm fine with either reading, but I don't consider anything off the first two albums to be so exceptional that I would recommend it. I consider it enjoyable boilerplate black metal.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

A lot of people seem to cite this riff as amazing. It's my least favourite part of the song actually. I much prefer everything that comes before it and when they return back to that melody after the riff you're talking about.

Agreed. Everything that comes before and after that riff is divine, but that riff is a little off-putting and telegraphed.

I think the vocals are one of the weaker parts of modern DSO. He tries to sound passionate and emotional but fails for the most part imo. I don't think they're bad and they are quite unique, I just think they could be better suited to the music at times.

Disagree here. Miko is arguably the best vocalist in the genre and his performance on Paracletus is quite dynamic and does a great job of coloring the compositions.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Not much to go off of, but Aosoth has a new album in the works. I loved Arrow in the Heart and look forward to what they come up with next.

 

[Phylactery]

Disagree here. Miko is arguably the best vocalist in the genre and his performance on Paracletus is quite dynamic and does a great job of coloring the compositions.

Yeah, I'm not expecting many people to agree. I just don't think he delivers on an emotional level what parts of Carnal Malefactor (and other songs) demand. I don't feel the passion unlike say Varg on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.

 

[EspaDa]

I don't really mind the vocals while listening to DsO. Btw, is Inquisitors of Satan worth listening?

 

[tagradh]

I don't really mind the vocals while listening to DsO. Btw, is Inquisitors of Satan worth listening?

Surely the actual 'phase 1' is the style found on Infernal Battles (which is hella generic and not especially interesting) and Inquisitors of Satan (still generic but loaded with riffs)?

If you have any interest in bands like Horna and Sargeist you should listen to it.


New Hail Spirit Noir is cool. Didn't grab me as hard as Oi Magoi but I've been doing other shit at the same time and missed a few bits.

Bit of a lull, albeit an enjoyable one, in the middle of the new Urfaust but tracks II,V and VI are great.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

V is unavailable on Spotify, so I'll just leave this here:

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I don't really mind the vocals while listening to DsO. Btw, is Inquisitors of Satan worth listening?

It's a B/B+ album. Solid from start to finish, but pretty boilerplate second-wave worship and short on standout tracks. "Succubus of All Vices" is the only track that really resonates.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Yeah, I'm not expecting many people to agree. I just don't think he delivers on an emotional level what parts of Carnal Malefactor (and other songs) demand. I don't feel the passion unlike say Varg on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.

Well Varg's performance on the first three Burzum albums is arguably the epoch of black metal vocals, so that's a tough comp.

I'd also point out that DSO's probably shouldn't be as passionate as Burzum's just based on what they are trying to achieve. Burzum is very primal and visceral music, while DSO is much more grandiose, abstract, and metaphysical in nature. The pure unbridled emotion of Varg's vocals would fit poorly into a project like DSO.

 

[no country for old wainds]

SMRC is very emotionally charged but i also think his vocals are perfect for it so w/e

 

[Draehl]

Yummm

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

I just listened to Chaining the Katechon and I'm thinking it's one of the best releases DsO has. It gets right to the point and maintains its assault for the 22 minute running time.

 

[NinjaSweater]

Wow, it's been a while. I'm sure no one hee is gonna remember me haha.

Been stuck on the Deathspell Omega. It's album of the year for me. Just incredible.

Also stuck on Leviathan's Verrater album. I know it's a compliation but it's great!

 

[Draehl]

V is unavailable on Spotify, so I'll just leave this here:

I posted this on facebook a couple days ago and my 80 year old grandma liked it. I mean, I guess she's got okay music taste in Celtic Thunder she's always jamming and liked Wardruna oddly enough, but I think Urfaust is a stretch...