Black Sabbath - I don't get it

[AchrisK]

...and how many better with only two full fingers on their hands ? (Albeit this is a shit argument, and I beg you to ignore me in my intoxicated state_)

Amazing, I was about to ask the very same thing!

 

[Life Sucks]

...and how many better with only two full fingers on their hands ? (Albeit this is a shit argument, and I beg you to ignore me in my intoxicated state_)

Actually, I think he's only missing the tips of two fingers on his picking hand. He plays a left handed guitar.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Disregarding the great influence Black Sabbath had on metal, I think that there are many many guitarist better than Tony Iommi, particularly in terms of technical prowess. There are too many to list.

Technical prowess is not the issue here; most of us can agree he was not the greatest guitarist in terms of skill. However, he was not a part of the advent of the "uber-technical" era of death metal and such, so you can't really hold that against him. I'm sure if he had been around then, he'd be a death metal guitarist or something.

 

[Ender Rises]

Actually, I think he's only missing the tips of two fingers on his picking hand. He plays a left handed guitar.

No, he lost them on his fretting hand. He had to wear little prosthetic things to play, and de-tuned to be more comfortable, which is where de-tuning came from.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Technical prowess is not the issue here; most of us can agree he was not the greatest guitarist in terms of skill. However, he was not a part of the advent of the "uber-technical" era of death metal and such, so you can't really hold that against him. I'm sure if he had been around then, he'd be a death metal guitarist or something.

Technical death metal is as boring as watching grass grow.

 

[Life Sucks]

^ Some of it is. But some of it is great. There is good and bad in every metal genre.

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

No, he lost them on his fretting hand. He had to wear little prosthetic things to play, and de-tuned to be more comfortable, which is where de-tuning came from.

Actually De-Tuning or different tunings were done by alot of other guitarists before Tony such as Keith Richards.... as for the prosthetics... he "has" to and not "had" to... Anyways when everyone else is referring to playing with two fingers they are referring to one of Tony's influences... Django Reinhardt (did i spell it right?). The Gypsy Jazz guitarist who mangled two fingers so he played with only two fingers... maybe three including his thumb...

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Technical death metal is as boring as watching grass grow.

In complete agreement.

 

[Ender Rises]

Actually De-Tuning or different tunings were done by alot of other guitarists before Tony such as Keith Richards.... as for the prosthetics... he "has" to and not "had" to... Anyways when everyone else is referring to playing with two fingers they are referring to one of Tony's influences... Django Reinhardt (did i spell it right?). The Gypsy Jazz guitarist who mangled two fingers so he played with only two fingers... maybe three including his thumb...

Well, yeah, obviously it existed before him, I meant that's where it came from in metal. And yeah, has, if you want to nitpick.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Technical death metal is as boring as watching grass grow.

no

nile, augury, gorguts, atheist, early quo vaids, lykathea aflame, some of death, etc...

 

[anonymousnick2001]

And I happen to find grass growth stimulating, so there...

 

[skeptik]

Nick, you better fucking stick around this time you asshole.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

I'll try.

[/sailor's promise]

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

I remember that epic argument you had with the ANUS faggots about the "sound of perseverance"

 

[anonymousnick2001]

Considering my views on subjectivity on the part of the music listener's determining said music's hemispherically intrinsic value haven't changed, I still say I won that one, both hands tied behind my back and keyboard unplugged.

 

[Life Sucks]

I take it that it was Falco that you argued with? Personally, The Sound of Perseverance is my least favorite Death album, though I definitely do not dislike it, like some people do.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

Wanna hear a secret? It's my least favorite Death album, too.

It was that Demiurge fellow, in fact. Not Mr. Mornlithe Falconsbane. Geez, I wish I had the e-nutz to parade around with a name like that.

 

[zoidberg]

^ Some of it is. But some of it is great. There is good and bad in every metal genre.

what about the genre peopleplaying a brand of monotone, droning thrash in thier living room?

 

[CF87]

Comparing black sabbaths musicianship and skills,etc... with modern metal bands makes no sense at all to begin with and than throwing the term technical prowess when judging musicians makes even less sense. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed or anything and your post/thread still is baseless and makes no sense. You might aswell use the same argument towards Zeppelin,Mountain,etc.

 

[CF87]

The thing with metal is you have bands in metal that formed because say Sabbath or then say maiden and with newer generation metal you basically have sub-genres in the style because some people have such different idea about what metal is or should be or what early bands are the most metal,etc...

Atleast compare musicians who are similiar or base musicianship on playing. As you said something about Tony Iommi being blues based so start from there...