Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
...and Oceans - A.M.G.O.D. and Cypher are not shit, they are rather amazing albums, both for different reasons that do not apply to their first two albums.
Can anything truly "new" be done with metal?
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MasterOLightning
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Cypher is total shit. It's probably the worst album I own.
Haven't bothered to listen to AMGOD for that reason.
Haven't bothered to listen to AMGOD for that reason.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
I can see the dislike towards Cypher, but as to why anyone who enjoys black metal and electronica at all, would dislike AMGOD I have no clue.
It is such an amazingly well-done album, and blends the electronic and metal elements into one, almost perfectly.
Only The Kovenant - Animatronic has done it better.
It is such an amazingly well-done album, and blends the electronic and metal elements into one, almost perfectly.
Only The Kovenant - Animatronic has done it better.
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I fucking hate this incorporation of industrial/electronica/etc. elements into Metal. Like I said before, it's just adding crap to a base. Pretentious shit as far as I'm concerned. I've never heard anything good come out of these experimentations, and if this is the direction toward which Metal as a whole is headed, I fear for any other type of potential evolution in Metal. A complete and utter abomination.
Mort Divine
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skeptik
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*purist
Eh, it's not like it's a conscious effort. I've actually listened to and evaluated these bands, and I just can't stomach them. It's not really about "keeping the purity of Metal" or any gay shit like that, it's just that I think if this is the primary route for the future of Metal, then I think alternative avenues will be overlooked and there will be too many intersections.
Eh, it's not like it's a conscious effort. I've actually listened to and evaluated these bands, and I just can't stomach them. It's not really about "keeping the purity of Metal" or any gay shit like that, it's just that I think if this is the primary route for the future of Metal, then I think alternative avenues will be overlooked and there will be too many intersections.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
Eh. I suppose I could see your dislike for the principles behind it, but ah well. Two different opinions.
METAL WILL BE COMBINED WITH SWING TO MAKE SWING METAL!
METAL WILL BE COMBINED WITH SWING TO MAKE SWING METAL!
TylerTheNuke
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MasterOLightning said:
Same here, but it seems like it has a ton of potential if it wasn't all lame bands doing it
YenomTheDark
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Who cares? I'm quite content with the music I listen too now, why change it when I already enjoy it. And no, I don't get bored with bands.
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hibernal_dream
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Thraxz said:
Not really. By "riff" i'm referring to a repeating series of notes used to provide a backbone for the song. Its not only a characteristic of metal - every form of modern music from pop to techno uses this. What i'm proposing is something more continuous, an extended form of the riff. The chorus of Emperor's Thus Spake The Nightspirit is a good example - flowing but with very little repetition, its not strictly a riff yet everyone regards it as metal. Extend that to a whole song and the result would be amazing.
The Winnipeg Warrior
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Susperia
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When I see denim and leather (both of which I'm not a fan of) and spikes I think of 80's hair bands. I don't think that has anything to do with Metal today. Long hair and black, however, does.
I think there is plenty of potential for new stuff to be done with metal, regardless of whether or not any of us can think of it. I'm sure countless people said Death Metal was dead in the mid 90's or that no one could ever do anything new with BM after the first wave.
Nobody can predict the style of a genre before its been conceptualized... so you people saying that there wont be any new metal genres, simply based on the fact that you dont have any good ideas, does not mean that someone else won't invent something ingenious.
I'm sure Black Sabbath didn't anticipate grindcore.
Nobody can predict the style of a genre before its been conceptualized... so you people saying that there wont be any new metal genres, simply based on the fact that you dont have any good ideas, does not mean that someone else won't invent something ingenious.
I'm sure Black Sabbath didn't anticipate grindcore.
Phrozenspite
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MasterOLightning said:
How about Aborym, Godflesh, The Axis of Perdition, Red Harvest or Void of Silence?
MasterOLightning
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Scourge of Malice
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I don't see how adding different elements to metal isn't expanding it... it's changing what can be done with heavy music and what is accepted in metal music. I see that as change, but maybe I'm alone. Death Metal isn't pure, its a combination of different influences that created a heavy sounding form of metal. Nothing was ever totally pure, everyone was influenced by something, except maybe the first guy to play a guitar.
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