chat, feelings, and random discussion thread

[6 Stringed Fingers]

How the hell does it pump blood then? Each heart beat would crack it or break it.

 

[King Chaos]

I imagine the heart split perfectly in twain between the right ventricle and the left ventricle, still attached by arteries and stretched valves...

 

[RampageSword]

I will never work 7 days in a row again. yesterday, I was this close to bringing my katana at work. Instead, I was extremely bitter to everyone. And now, they only give me one day off. How inhuman.

Now, for the lighter note, tuesday was my first live improv game @Le petit Chicago. The place was full and the ambiance was wonderful and the public absolutely loved us. In short, it was a über-success! We'll play again on july 18th and then maybe every week!

 

[marduk1507]

Congrats Rampy!

 

[hyena]

Congrats from me too.

I'm feeling like a lousy computer with difficulties in the boot phase. I absolutely have to work today and tomorrow, and I am also quite willing to since I've been doing absolute zero for two weeks, but I just can't get started properly. Maybe going for a short walk in order to shop for printer cartridges will help. I'll go and then also have another coffee, then I'll try to start writing.

 

[La Rocque]

I walk everyday for exercise, its raining like a madman now so I'll go to the local mall to walk and then spend a few hours at the library ... ain't life a beach

 

[KitKat]

i am so wasted...

 

[hyena]

nf: i am more or less on schedule, which means that i am late by a three-hour lot (read: i will have to work on monday night, alas ) only. this morning the booting phase is better than it was yesterday, especially because i am laughing at the music genre turbofolk which I accidentally discovered while reading documents on the yugoslav wars. i really want to download some of that stuff, but for the time being i was unsuccesful.

edit: right, i was able to download (legally) some promotional videos. so here's what turbofolk consists of, as far as i understand: female singers who look like aged porn-stars - probably some of them are - and sing bad pop songs with good voices. they also seem to have a preference for appearing on a television network called "Pink TV", wearing either ghastly outfits or office garb (yes). one interesting feature is that the titles tend to remind me of Running Wild. now i only need the lyrics - i can imagine they're insipid and sentimental, but i must admit i want to know. so i invite the serb-speaking community to stand up and help me get some laughs while working.

 

[Cuthalion]

nf: i am more or less on schedule, which means that i am late by a three-hour lot (read: i will have to work on monday night, alas ) only. this morning the booting phase is better than it was yesterday, especially because i am laughing at the music genre turbofolk which I accidentally discovered while reading documents on the yugoslav wars. i really want to download some of that stuff, but for the time being i was unsuccesful.

edit: right, i was able to download (legally) some promotional videos. so here's what turbofolk consists of, as far as i understand: female singers who look like aged porn-stars - probably some of them are - and sing bad pop songs with good voices. they also seem to have a preference for appearing on a television network called "Pink TV", wearing either ghastly outfits or office garb (yes). one interesting feature is that the titles tend to remind me of Running Wild. now i only need the lyrics - i can imagine they're insipid and sentimental, but i must admit i want to know. so i invite the serb-speaking community to stand up and help me get some laughs while working.

TurboFolk is a kind of phenomena, there is no reasonable explanation why someone would listen to that crap. But turbofolk is not limited to ex-Yugoslavia only, Bulgaria also has it, Albania and maybe Turkey but i'm not sure. There have been many parodies to Turbofolk made by people who thought that only idiots could listen to that crap, they made songs like Udri Brus Li ( Hit them Bruce Lee), Ajde Da Se Drogiramo (Lets Do Drugs), Zidareva Ljubav (Construction Man's Love) and similar. These songs are hilarious and i will try to translate some lyrics for you.

Definately the most famous Turbofolk singer is Ceca Raznatovic, she fills stadiums, has an army of followers and also there is a talk that The Rolling Stones had to re-schedule their concert in Belgrade( i think) because Ceca decided to do it on the same day and since "Only One is Ceca" and there obviously are plenty of Rolling Stones the RS concert was cancelled. I'm not sure if this is true but someone told this to me.

This is one of her most famous songs and i will repeat once more this is your most classic Turbofolk i will include the original lyrics so somenone could correct any errors i make.

Ceca - Kad Bi Bio Ranjen

Ja, pre bih ove svoje ruke
Zeljne svega, vezala u cvor
Pre, nego da ih grli, ljubi
Neki drugi drazi muski stvor

Pred vratima spavala ko pas
Kroz vekove gorela zbog nas

Kad bi bio ranjen, krvi bih ti dala
Oba svoja oka, kad bi bio slep
Al uzalud, bez duse si lep
Al uzalud, bez duse si lep

Sve, bila sam ti ljubavnica
Ljubavnica i sestra i drug
Sve, dala sam ti svoja krila
Da preletis i sever i jug

Pred vratima spavala ko pas
Kroz vekove gorela zbog nas

Kad bi bio ranjen, krvi bih ti dala
Oba svoja oka, kad bi bio slep
Al uzalud, bez duse si lep
Al uzalud, bez duse si lep


Ceca- If you were wounded

I, would rather tie my hands
eager for everything, in a knot
before i let them be carassed,loved
by some other male beeing

In front of the doors I slept as a dog
Through the ages I burnt for us

If you were wounded, i would give you blood
Both of my eyes, if you were blind
But all in vain, without a soul you're beautiful
But all in vain, without a soul you're beautiful

Everything, i have been your lover
A lover and a sister and a friend
Everything, i gave you my wings
So you could fly over North and South

In front of the doors I slept as a dog
Through the ages I burnt for us

If you were wounded, i would give you blood
Both of my eyes, if you were blind
But all in vain, without a soul you're beautiful
But all in vain, without a soul you're beautiful

Here is another song from Natasa Bekvalac called Nicotine (Nikotin) and i find the lyrics idiotic i will not bother with the original lyrics

With a girl you were
yesterday i saw you accidentally
you are the same as ever
you light one after another constantly
Oh why am i not a cigarette, without a filter
so i could be passed from your fingers
to your lips

Like nicotine
you still flow through my veins
i still love you
know, i never stopped that
Like nicotine
you are killing me slowly
'cos to your lips
i'm addicted from long ago
Like nicotin...Like nicotin

On every five minutes
you need another cigarette
come across the road
in my heart there is a whole box (of cigarettes for fucks sake )
Oh why am i not a cigarette, without a filter
so i could be passed from your fingers
to your lips

Like nicotine
you still flow through my veins
i still love you
know, i never stopped that
Like nicotine
you are killing me slowly
'cos to your lips
i'm addicted from long ago
Like nicotin...Like nicotin


I will also include Udri Brus Li (Hit them Bruce Lee) this song is a parody of Turbofolk because many turbofolk songs actually have such lyrics


Yesterday i went
to the cinema
Bruce Lee played
my sympathy

Right at the start
the fighting started
the up to then quiet audience
started to cheer

Hit them Bruce Lee
Kick them Bruce Lee
Kill them all!
Don't let anyone
to survive
from those thugs

One actor wails
i don't know if he is cheating
Bruce Lee just fights
he doesn't get tired at all

Flying on every side
are Karate hits
Bruce Lee kills them all
like they are mosquitoes

Hit them Bruce Lee
Kick them Bruce Lee
Kill them all!
Don't let anyone
to survive
from those thugs

Bruce Lee doeen't stop
lightning Karate
he wants to kill them all
to leave no one alive

The audience is crying
Tears are falling
They are sorry for all those people
that Bruce Lee killed

Enough Bruce Lee
dear brother
have a soul
Leave us
at least one
for the next movie


i'm sure that the translated lyrics are not as funny as the originals but you should get the main idea. This was like the longest post ever for me

if you want the translation to a particular song just tell me the title and i will translate it

 

[hyena]

thank you, thank you



i'm going to look for the bruce lee tune presently.

as for ceca, who was featured in one of the videos i watched earlier, i must say that i'm puzzled by

But all in vain, without a soul you're beautiful

still, on second thought i realized that maybe it's two different concepts: "but all in vain, without a soul" and "you're beautiful". if it's just one, i.e. "you are beautiful because you have no soul", then we must conclude that really she is a black metal artist in disguise. and through the ages i burnt for us sounds like a rammstein parody

oh, and probably the rolling stones were threatened at gunpoint.

edit: the cigarette song reminded me of a phrase that teeny-boppers write on their rucksacks in this country, i.e. "i wish i was a tear, so i could be born in your eyes, glide on your face and die on your lips". i am sure that there must be a version mentioning cigarettes being passed from fingers to lips (i will overlook the obvious sexual implications). now i'm quite depressed by the fact that, although i have been a smoker for more than ten years, nobody has ever used these subtle metaphors with me.

edit pt. 2: if you could translate "39,2" for me i would be glad, the video is confusing.

edit pt. 3: for the rest of the forum to know what we're talking about, here's the turbofolk icon, as a cross between 50 cent and a porn diva:

edit pt. 4: i most definitely could not resist and now there's a mention of turbofolk in my book.

 

[Cuthalion]

still, on second thought i realized that maybe it's two different concepts: "but all in vain, without a soul" and "you're beautiful". if it's just one, i.e. "you are beautiful because you have no soul", then we must conclude that really she is a black metal artist in disguise. and through the ages i burnt for us sounds like a rammstein parody

i think she wanted to say that even without a soul (heart, feelings, capability for love etc) he is beautiful, and after everything she would do for him (give eyes, blood, wings) he still doesn't love her. I'm not sure and i can't believe i'm discussing a Ceca song

The thing with the rolling stones shows that no one would go to a RS concert in Belgrade if Ceca was playing on the same day so i don't think that they had to be threatened

And about 39.2. It stands for a body temperature in celsius degrees, i don't know if you measure the temperature with the same unit in Italy but i think that the normal human body temperature is 36.8 or something so the point is that Ceca has the hots for someone I will translate the song and you will see the whole idea

Tu na vratima gde živim
Mesto imena mi piše sama
Na moj talenat za ljubav
Kao da je pala neka tama

Laku noæ, samoæo
Idem, a ti nisi pozvana
Laku noæ, znaš da doæiæu
Ti opet u to budi sigurna

Tu na vratima gde živim
Mesto imena mi piše kuda
Samo telo mi je ovde
Srce mi je kao nekad svuda

Laku noæ...

Ref:
39 sa 2 (tridesetdevet sa dva)
Nije ti dobro a izlaziš napolje
Toliko topla sam ja
S koliko nula pise se tuga
Znam ja najbolje


Here on the door where i live
instead of my name it writes "alone" (alone is written)
on my talent for love
it seems that some darkness has fallen

Good night,loneliness
i go, and you're not invited
Good night, you know i will come
you again can be sure of that ( i don't understand what she means by that)

Here on the door where i live
instead of my name it writes "where"
only my body is here
my heart is everywhere

Good Night...

Ref:
39 point 2
(You're not well and you go outside)
Thats how hot i am
(with how many zeros is sorrow spelled)
I know best


i must admit that the lyrics of this song puzzle me because i have heard this song only a couple of times and i guess that the words in brackets in the refrain are sung by a second voice or something. The translation is correct though

 

[hyena]

i think she wanted to say that even without a soul (heart, feelings, capability for love etc) he is beautiful, and after everything she would do for him (give eyes, blood, wings) he still doesn't love her.

the fucking insensitive bastard! i most definitely would not tolerate a man who does not love me even after i've offered him my wings. it sounds more and more like 'the babbling chronicles'.

I'm not sure and i can't believe i'm discussing a Ceca song

well, if someone had told me yesterday that i was going to mention turbofolk in a textbook i would have been slightly incredulous, too. you see, this music has mysterious powers!

And about 39.2. It stands for a body temperature in celsius degrees, i don't know if you measure the temperature with the same unit in Italy but i think that the normal human body temperature is 36.8 or something so the point is that Ceca has the hots for someone

*facepalms* yes! how could i not think of that? probably i even heard someone use the very concept while spending a summer at an all-girls camp about 15 years ago... but the video didn't help, if i recall correctly it featured a silver train and railtrack maps. must have been the hallucinations induced by the high fever.

Here on the door where i live
instead of my name it writes "alone" (alone is written)

this is interesting because apparently the Serb construction is equivalent to the Italian one (we would use something very similar to "it writes" in this context). this music is really making me discover things.

on my talent for love
it seems that some darkness has fallen

was that before or after her marriage? and again, note the black metal influences...

only my body is here
my heart is everywhere

...and the pantheistic slant...

(You're not well and you go outside)

...plus a type o negative quote.

I know best

yeah, right.

i am really thankful for your translation work, so i will relate to you my latest finding: ceca has a myspace page, where you can listen to a soundbite off the new album whose title has something to do with ideals but i'm not proficient enough (yet!) to know what it means. it's horrible.

 

[Cuthalion]

no problem, i don't know/care what her new album is called but if it is Idealno Losa the translation to that would be Ideally Bad
If you ever need someone to help you with the turbofolk world just ask
Rincewind could probably say something about the Croatian turbofolk scene, Severina and her home porn videos etc. I will finish this with a verse from "The construction man's love"

You ripped out a brick
from the foundation of our love

 

[hyena]

thanks again. new frontier here - i had no idea that there was croatian turbofolk too. i thought it was a patriotic thing. i am eagerly awaiting rincewind's comeback to get more info then (although the home porn part is not strictly necessary)

 

[wildfyr]

Turbofolk bumps The Rolling Stones?

 

[Dark_Silence]

Tomorrow I have a German test to see if i have the sufficiant level to follow classes at the university...

 

[marduk1507]

I am going to attend Spanish classes, at last. I hope this first step towards Romanic languages wont be the last.

 

[Cuthalion]

I am properly fucked at my university because of the new 6 levels second foreign language rule. Since i am finishing my 6th semester now and have only two more to go and have up till now completed 0 levels of second foreign language i will have to waste an extra year or so just to take language classes, this pisses me of because this rule is recent and we can;t do anything about it. Instead of giving us more subjects relevant to my direction Communication sciences (not that languages are not important) they make up stupid rules...

 

[hyena]

is it necessary for you to attend classes or can you prepare your foreign language exam at home? in the latter case it shouldn't be necessary to waste one year, maybe there is some language of which you already know the basics and can work on?

 

[Vizjaqtaar]

thanks again. new frontier here - i had no idea that there was croatian turbofolk too. i thought it was a patriotic thing. i am eagerly awaiting rincewind's comeback to get more info then (although the home porn part is not strictly necessary)

Turbofolk is even worse than techno. uke: It's popular through most of the former Yugoslavia.. sadly also in Slovenia. It's something like worshiping serbia but only kids that are below 17 or something listen to it, the ones who don't know and don't remember anything of former Yugoslawia and what was going on then.

Eh turbofolk is what we here call ''komerciala'' - music which is only for making money, like 20% musik and 80% image. Image is about half naked women and the musik techno rhythm with catchy melodies.

If you want to see Severina's home porn it freely available on the internet (emule & co), but it's not really a quality one.