Death Metal

[Panzer Meyer]

Just thrash... and I refuse to call it "proto" death (can we never start that with death metal please?) because Seven Churches already existed. As far as sepultura is concerned, Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation are definitely early death metal. Maybe Schizophrenia too, I've never bothered with it much.

I'm all for calling a spade a spade, but the mania for ex post facto classification imposes an artificial linearity on a process that, historically, wasn't linear at all. The mistake is to visualize the history of metal as some sort of 'family tree.' It's much more useful to think of metal as a web of influences, or perhaps more accurately, as crystalline lattice, where the key, epoch-making bands represent anchor points or loci for whole segments of the historical network.

On the one hand, the "proto" tag does smack of trying to make messy history fit neatly into an anachronistic linear model, on the other, it does capture the unsettled, unfinished state of underground metal in the period roughly encompassing the years 1980-1987/88 (the point at which it becomes easier to see the clear points of departure between one subgenre and the next).

 

[Mort Divine]

Ban this fuck already.

 

[Krow]

formulate that change of discern.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

formulate that change of discern.

You have some sort of animus against the language of precision?

 

[Mort Divine]

The language of pretension, perhaps.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

The language of pretension, perhaps.

Pretension implies the projection of a false image for social purposes. Me, I just prefer to use language that maximizes precision and minimizes the potential for misinterpretation. If that means "big" words or less common metaphors, so be it.

 

[in_the_crease]

I was never huge into death metal--only recently did I feel comfortable enough to "adopt" Death, Autopsy and Obituary into my music collection. But as I listened to those early Florida death metal bands, I think I was about two steps away from giving death metal my own stamp of approval.

Then I heard technical death metal.

Now regular death metal sounds silly.

 

[Mort Divine]

Or you could just say what the fuck you mean without being a cock.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

Or you could just say what the fuck you mean without being a cock.

I say exactly what I mean. You're the one making an issue out of it.

 

[Krow]

I was never huge into death metal--only recently did I feel comfortable enough to "adopt" Death, Autopsy and Obituary into my music collection. But as I listened to those early Florida death metal bands, I think I was about two steps away from giving death metal my own stamp of approval.

Then I heard technical death metal.

Now regular death metal sounds silly.

Nothing wrong with being all flash, no substance, I suppose.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

I say exactly what I mean. You're the one making an issue out of it.

Just out of curiosity, do you listen to Meshuggah?

 

[Panzer Meyer]

Just out of curiosity, do you listen to Meshuggah?

Does anyone?

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

I would hope not

anyways, I need some new Death metal.

 

[in_the_crease]

Nothing wrong with being all flash, no substance, I suppose.

You say that like traditional death metal is full of substance.

 

[Mort Divine]

You say that like traditional death metal is full of substance.

It is.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

Now regular death metal sounds silly.

You know what I find silly? People who think that "quality music" has to be hard to play.

 

[in_the_crease]

It is.

I won't deny that that's true. I don't listen to a lot of death metal. But I haven't encountered any substance in the genre yet.

You know what I find silly? People who think that "quality music" has to be hard to play.

I find totally random responses to be sillier than anything discussed here thus far.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

You know what I find silly? People who think that "quality music" has to be hard to play.

+1

 

[Panzer Meyer]

I find totally random responses to be sillier than anything discussed here thus far.

Apparently, you're not aware of the meaning of the word "random." Is English not your first language?

 

[Vossyrus]

Apparently, you're not aware of the meaning of the word "random." If English not your first language?

Oh, don't mind him. He's just being random.

You see, the word random, like the word ironic, no longer has any meaning these days.