Does anyone out there think that opeth is over-rated?

[Hellvomits]

Look at all those other bands out today; black metal bands today, although they are really "heavy," not "soft," are releasing the same generic crap over and over again. Although there are a few exceptions, these exceptions are very subtle.



First you say that you wouldn't call the rap-genre crappy then you say this about Black Metal. Use your Brain. You must be (like most everyone here) listening to the typical cradle of filth, dimmu borgir stuff.

This is Hilarious. Ha ha.

 

[deathbearer]

Opeth are not overrated..They've been putting out great CD's for years..Black Water Park might have been a breakthrough cd here in the states and along with good promotion, a good label and some good world tours..YES, there IS alot of talk about Opeth..Opeth's success is well deserved as they are still underground..Opeth have had little to no airplay here in the states and no MTV videos as they haven't sold out..
However, I do agree that there is a trend of newbie Opeth fans that talk about stupid bands like Licoln park, Slipknot and ect.Some of us fans have liked Opeth before BWP and before they toured the states and we never cared about the hype because Opeth's music was a very personal, private affair..
It may be somewhat trendy to like Opeth now but it wasn't a trend when I started liking them..
I think that Opeth have a unique style and have ammased a cult following..I may not like all of Opeth's music (not into Damnation) either but I know the band has touched me and been a soundtrack to my life..
Yes, I listen to many underground death bands that don't get "As mutch attention as Opeth" but I still respect Opeth..I even take into account Opeth's detractors..
Here on the Opeth BB fans do openly express thier opinions both good and bad about Opeth but these are fans first and foremost..
The reason why Opeth are getting popular is that they are not your stereotypical death or gore band..
There is an interesting contrast between light and heavy, clean and death vocals and prog song progressions with a doomy feel..
This is groundbreaking in melodic death metal..
Sure I still like my blast beat metal, (Incantation, Immolation ect.) but Opeth are interesting too..
I hope the hype doesn't bother the poster of the thread but the fans didn't create it..

 

[Hellvomits]

Intelligence Finally! Thank you DeathBearer for a real answer.

 

[deathbearer]

Look at all those other bands out today; black metal bands today, although they are really "heavy," not "soft," are releasing the same generic crap over and over again. Although there are a few exceptions, these exceptions are very subtle.



First you say that you wouldn't call the rap-genre crappy then you say this about Black Metal. Use your Brain. You must be (like most everyone here) listening to the typical cradle of filth, dimmu borgir stuff.

This is Hilarious. Ha ha.

I know that you are new to this board..This how you quote someone: Reply with quote button..

 

[Hellvomits]

Cheers.

 

[SculptedCold]

I don't think they're overrated insofar as they deserve the praise they get because they are simply one of the best bands in the world IMOOOOOOO, but it IS rather silly when a band is immortalized in perfection by an entire fanbase, because no band writes flawless, perfectly consistent and strong material the duration of thier entire career.

Deliverance just goes to show some Opethian (hehe) elements wearing thin.

 

[kortex]

so what do you think about black rose immortal,i think it was perfect.and why the mikael said that was the least opeth track for the night and th silent water,i cant understand because that also perfect

 

[Smitty]

Come on, Dave is a genious and speak truth right to the point.

Dave is a fucking washed up, James Hetfield worshiping, POSER.

 

[Neurotomania]

fool. Pure and simple. fool.
As for your comments on damnation - real music lovers can see past genres. fool.

 

[no country for old wainds]

I don't believe Opeth are over-rated. Obviously, their music won't suit everyone's tastes, but albums such as My Arms Your Hearse and Morningrise have clicked with me more than any other releases. Opeth mix excellent metal riffs and vocals with beautiful elements of other genres, and this makes them different and original. Perhaps they're over-rated, perhaps they're under-rated, but the truth is, if so many metal fans like their music, they're certainly doing something right.

 

[Staffan]

No way! if you think that they are overrated you haven't got in to them fully yet!

 

[Stormwatch]

Opeth make great tunes - it's that simple.

 

[KielbasaSausage]

Look at all those other bands out today; black metal bands today, although they are really "heavy," not "soft," are releasing the same generic crap over and over again. Although there are a few exceptions, these exceptions are very subtle.



First you say that you wouldn't call the rap-genre crappy then you say this about Black Metal. Use your Brain. You must be (like most everyone here) listening to the typical cradle of filth, dimmu borgir stuff.

This is Hilarious. Ha ha.

First of all, i do not like COF or Dimmu because of their music. You, on the other hand, seem to hate them because they are well-known. It seems that you also have no valid taste in music because you rely simply on appearance.
Also, I did not say that black metal was crap. If you are too retarded to grasp what i said, i meant that many (not all, you idiot ) of the newer black metal bands today are rehashing older stuff and are lacking in the creativity department.
Now rap, i do not personally like, but i cannot give a valid opinion on it because i HAVE NEVER FULLY EXPOSED MYSELF TO THE SCENE. Im sorry i am not the kind of person that decides if a band is good just because of corpse paint, axes, and tight leather pants. Idiot.

 

[Ermz]

On the topic of production: Orchid is actually still my favourite Opeth album, due to the music itself, not the production (obviously). It's fair to assume that some Opeth fans are production-snobs, as some really are... for example if Opeth were to revert to Orchid style production now after Damnation, but obviously that wouldn't make sense.

But one thing I have to ask you. If the band have the tools to make a great sounding recording of a song, thus, 'good production', why would they handicap themselves and record it badly on purpose?

A large part of the overall sound is the production.. if the rhythm guitars are too loud, the lead is drowned out, if the drums are too loud, the song loses atmosphere etc. etc. These are all factors that affect the actual song as much as the actual song parts themselves.

 

[KielbasaSausage]

Some of you basically attacked Hellvomit because he thought differently, yet were you paying close attention you would realize that nothing he said was even remotely offensive to anyone who had sense. It seems like some of you just saw "Opeth [miscellaneous words] over-rated [miscellaneous words],' and then your instincts told you that Hellvomit was 'bashing' your favorite band. Some of you over-reacted, plain and simple.

No, we attacked Hellvomit because he is a fuckin moron. I previously said that music was subjective and that it was all a matter of opinion, and this moron starts accusing me of listening to COF and Dimmu, as if they were shitty bands, because of what i said. Simply put, he's a goddamn little pussy white boy that feels he must have "heavy" and "angry" music 24-7. The End.

 

[KielbasaSausage]

A large part of the overall sound is the production.. if the rhythm guitars are too loud, the lead is drowned out, if the drums are too loud, the song loses atmosphere etc. etc. These are all factors that affect the actual song as much as the actual song parts themselves.

[sarcasm] Fuck that. Music is sooo much better when you can't hear shit. [/sarcasm]

:Spin:

 

[KielbasaSausage]

Reread my posts and you'll see i had no beef with him until he accused my of only listening to "popular" music, simply because he is too retarded to understand what i previously meant to say. Why are you defending him anyway? I dont care that he hates Opeth or whatever; it just seems that he doesnt like them because it isnt angsty enough.

 

[Obyeybyeogone]

Opeth is becoming horribly over-rated, especially on this forum.

Deliverance and Damnation were nothing special, at all. A fair judgment is a CRAPPY SONG, realise this.

 

[KielbasaSausage]

I don't see how you interpreted his posts as saying he needs angst and aggression in everything he listens to to begin with. It's not my intention to 'defend' anyone, but what I read here was just ridiculous and I'm just sharing my view on the situation. I take no sides, whether you would like to believe that or not.

I truely cannot understand why opeth is constantly getting praised. It is as if they can do no wrong. Is Metal getting soft or what?

 

[KielbasaSausage]

Opeth is becoming horribly over-rated, especially on this forum.

I agree. This is the In Flames forum, afterall.