Elitist music?
- Thread starter Personified Hatred
- Start date
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
BlackMetalWhiteGuy
Manly Man!
Thoth-Amon
Hypochondriac
- Apr 4, 2006
- 6,821
- 8
- 38
BlackMetalWhiteGuy
Manly Man!
My impression of him is less "elitist" than an overly sensitive Jesus freak who pretty much wants to be offended.
Dumbass said:
I think he's scared of the big mean metalheads who steal his lunch money. Also, the thought of the "victim" of a "crime" sacrificing for the redemption of the perpetrators is an incredibly ass-backwards concept that I have always found ridiculous and illogical. It would make more sense if Jesus was sacrificed to redeem God for all the disgusting shit in the Old Testament, but that would undermine the foundation of Christianity, which is a worldwide collective guilt trip.
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference since every subculture spawns their own kind of high-horse jockeys.
He makes no distinction between Death, Agalloch, Opeth, Metalica,Atheist, Esoteric, Immolation, Darkthrone, etc. It's all soulless juvenile garbage to him.
Thoth-Amon
Hypochondriac
- Apr 4, 2006
- 6,821
- 8
- 38
f'shizzle, m'nizzle. sup cracka g dawg y'all?
he has a fucking point [insert rant about christianity promoting weakness, submission, conformity, being a tool of those in power to oppress the masses] fucking faggot jesus cunt.brilliant
sorry, got a little worked up there.
Great thread, every thing's been said pretty much, but id like to point out one very obvious and therefore usually overlooked form of elitism. Pop music! Have you ever tried telling a (lets say) Beyonce fan that you dont find her latest single the best music ever made? Go and try it out...
If elitism is defined by the amount of close-mindedness and paranoia demonstrated by "aficionados" of a certain genre/artist, then pop music likely takes the first place. I spent some amount of time trying to defend those "stars" from common accusations that they "cant sing" or "have no talent", but, there came a moment when i realized that theres more than enough casual people taking their side with bias! Everything is ok with those people. You can sign a multi million contract with mass-murder corporation, or ally with some notorious politician, or have a private island and pretend to be a "philanthropist", or abuse your body to "market" your music, or even use auto-tune if you will, do anything that is ethically questionable, its still being "modern" and up do date with latest fads and trends to those people.
So, even though i developed my own brand of animosity towards classical/jazz/metal elitism, i would say that, surprisingly or not, "casual people", with their inclination to defend their "stars", and with their "with or against us" attitude represent the most widespread, aggressive and oppressive breed of elitism. Furthermore, i even feel as though afore mentioned elitisms are more than justified by reasonable desire to distance themselves from this stupid world of hypocrisy, demagogy, and popular taste that rules "mtv" realm.
If elitism is defined by the amount of close-mindedness and paranoia demonstrated by "aficionados" of a certain genre/artist, then pop music likely takes the first place. I spent some amount of time trying to defend those "stars" from common accusations that they "cant sing" or "have no talent", but, there came a moment when i realized that theres more than enough casual people taking their side with bias! Everything is ok with those people. You can sign a multi million contract with mass-murder corporation, or ally with some notorious politician, or have a private island and pretend to be a "philanthropist", or abuse your body to "market" your music, or even use auto-tune if you will, do anything that is ethically questionable, its still being "modern" and up do date with latest fads and trends to those people.
So, even though i developed my own brand of animosity towards classical/jazz/metal elitism, i would say that, surprisingly or not, "casual people", with their inclination to defend their "stars", and with their "with or against us" attitude represent the most widespread, aggressive and oppressive breed of elitism. Furthermore, i even feel as though afore mentioned elitisms are more than justified by reasonable desire to distance themselves from this stupid world of hypocrisy, demagogy, and popular taste that rules "mtv" realm.
chuj666
....and a bottle of grog
V.V.V.V.V.
Houses Ov Mercury
no country for old wainds
Active Member
- Nov 23, 2002
- 26,677
- 9,652
- 113
Belligerent
Greekus Urungus
Vimana
Member
- Mar 2, 2007
- 11,671
- 20
- 38
He was a huge classic rock elitist. I remember that whole argument about how he said death growls were antimusical.
I think what makes a genre have an elitist fanbase is it being hated or not being popular. But I wouldn't say that is always the case because I've never seen anyone say stuff like "Traditional Indian music is the greatest! All other music is shit!"
I think what makes a genre have an elitist fanbase is it being hated or not being popular. But I wouldn't say that is always the case because I've never seen anyone say stuff like "Traditional Indian music is the greatest! All other music is shit!"
Agreed with this post.
But I think, "elitist", is the wrong word here because, in this context, it's sort of loaded. Progressive and Classical are simply styles of music that have higher aspirations, at least musically. I don't find that in itself elitist. Maybe someone who is threatened by it, would find it elitist.
I'm sure traditional Indian music is plenty popular. There's a billion fucking people in that country.
BlackMetalWhiteGuy
Manly Man!
Wow, I just googled it because I thought China was the only country with a population over one billion. This is mind blowing.
China - 1,321,851,888 (July, 2007 est.)
India - 1,123,866,154 (July, 2007 est.)
These people really need to keep it in their pants (ironically, I'm currently trying to get into a Chinese girl's pants).
China - 1,321,851,888 (July, 2007 est.)
India - 1,123,866,154 (July, 2007 est.)
These people really need to keep it in their pants (ironically, I'm currently trying to get into a Chinese girl's pants
).
ShredHeadJHJ
oh noes itz a opinionn
That moron might be the biggest idiot on the planet. If he rates EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING metal 1/2-1 star & EVERYTHING non-metal 4-5 stars he's much worse than any metal elitist I've ever seen. The guy has horrible taste. If you hate metal so much why fucking listen to it!!!???
Similar threads
