Guitar Player's Thread

[eveningninja]

Anyway, I'd love some specific comments/suggestion on a new song I'm working on, please take a look if you can, guys!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1p78zd

I think your music needs to go one of two ways. Either have more relatability in its structure, or vary up your rhythms/syncopation more so that it sounds more interesting. A few of the violin riffs you play at whatever point in the song are just heard one time right then and there (making me think you're going for a progressive touch), and yet the song still doesn't sound that diverse because the rhythms of your different lines are either the same or very similar.

An example of something that I think could work if you go with a more structured route - take that intro riff you play on the violin, and perhaps have it played on guitar later on, while with violin you play a different melody/line/chords atop it. You wouldn't be repeating anything in a traditional sense, retaining the avant-garde feel, but at the same time listeners would feel a sense of recollection and it would sound more like a "song."

 

[srob7001]

These guys are on a Metal Blade DVD I have and pretty fucking badass for some acoustic stuff.

 

[Ensi]

Borrowed a Harley Benton (140 euros) from a friend of mine, it is a blast to play on 7 strings

I really need to get me one of dem 7 strings, oh lawd

Check this shizzle out: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1064562/DERP/DJENT.mp3

Also video with some other stuff in it:

 

[eveningninja]

^ Nice Periphery @ 3:04 Srsly, 7-strings are the shiznit.

 

[Ensi]

Yes! Check out that MP3 link as well, it is brutal as fuck.

 

[Crzy_Aus]

I think your music needs to go one of two ways. Either have more relatability in its structure, or vary up your rhythms/syncopation more so that it sounds more interesting. A few of the violin riffs you play at whatever point in the song are just heard one time right then and there (making me think you're going for a progressive touch), and yet the song still doesn't sound that diverse because the rhythms of your different lines are either the same or very similar.

An example of something that I think could work if you go with a more structured route - take that intro riff you play on the violin, and perhaps have it played on guitar later on, while with violin you play a different melody/line/chords atop it. You wouldn't be repeating anything in a traditional sense, retaining the avant-garde feel, but at the same time listeners would feel a sense of recollection and it would sound more like a "song."

Hmm, thanks for the suggestions, I'll play around with that later. I was originally planning to write a more simple song, with repeating recognizable riffs, but then it kinda naturally flowed into what you heard.

 

[children of COB]

Ok, Reaper is driving me nuts. I'm trying to use the built-in effects (eqs, compressors, reverbs, etc) and I can't get anything to really work properly. With Audition it was much more intuitive. Would anyone who uses Reaper be kind enough to tell me how to use the eq (graphic and parametric), compressor and reverb please? Maybe from there I can work up and figure out the rest, but right now it's getting me really frustrated because I record cool takes, have them there but I can't do anything to them.

 

[Crzy_Aus]

You click FX button on a track you wanna modify (or on Master track), click "Add" then select the effect you need. You can use search. I usually use 4-band EQ and ReaVerb/ReaVerbate. No idea about compression. Also, make sure the effects you added are "checked" in the FX window, otherwise the program won't apply it.

Reaper basic effects aren't that great. If you have external plugins you can load them up in Reaper, too.

 

[children of COB]

I am not that dumb dude I mean how to tweak them, how to get a good use of them, not how to activate them on Reaper.

 

[Derpsicle]

Ok, I'm going to pimp my explorer!
spent 350 dollars on stuff

 

[Crzy_Aus]

I am not that dumb dude I mean how to tweak them, how to get a good use of them, not how to activate them on Reaper.

Oh, it sounded like that's what you asked I don't really know, just play around with it a bit. I usually don't use anything beyond basic reverb and EQ so I wouldn't know.

 

[children of COB]

Yeha but what I mean is that I don't know how the fuck to fiddle with it, how it works. I kind of had Audition mastered, but no clue about this one.

 

[Crzy_Aus]

Just grab all the different sliders and keep nudging them back and forth until you get the sound you want. That's what I usually do, but granted, I'm not very good at mixing <__<

There's also presets for some of the VTSs.

 

[children of COB]

I know I know, but I was aiming at a more detailed description, as in "if you want to boost the attack of the guitar try this frequences" or those kind of things. Anybody with 10 minutes to spare and give me some starting point from which I can build up?

 

[Muffin]

:/

 

[eveningninja]

Ok, I'm going to pimp my explorer!
spent 350 dollars on stuff

What kind of Explorer is it? I've been an RR obsessor but have recently become interested in purchasing an Explorer of some sort. Right now it's looking like one of the EMG-equipped LTD EX/FX guitars will be most likely. Ideally if I had the cash I'd go for an Edwards or something.

 

[children of COB]

If you're to go with an Explorer shape I'd definitely go for the ESP ones.

:/

What?

 

[<Arcane>]

Why don't you use audition anymore? Why Reaper?

 

[marfal66]

I know I know, but I was aiming at a more detailed description, as in "if you want to boost the attack of the guitar try this frequences" or those kind of things. Anybody with 10 minutes to spare and give me some starting point from which I can build up?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=equalizing+techniques&aq=1

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/mar95/eq.html

http://www.digitalprosound.com/2002/03_mar/tutorials/mixing_excerpt1.htm

http://autoproduction.abotch.com/en/parametric-equalization-mixing.html

http://www.wikirecording.org/EQ_Mixing_tips

That was 5 mins of googling, all the info you need and way better explained than any of us could do.

And that's the theory part, if you know all that, it's time to practise, practise, and practise even more. equalizing is a skill on itself.

Having said that, I only know just the basics, I know how to work with parametric eqs, I know where instruments lie and so on but I'm not very good at it either.

 

[children of COB]

Ok I'll try that, although last time I tried one of your links I got so messed up