My Sporadic Update Thread

tell him to shut up, that the music doesn't matter, and that you're paying the bill here (also, listen to the first antimatter album, it's not terribly depressing)

don't take meds, you don't need meds unless shit seriously impedes your ability to function at all

also "emotionally detached from society" haha yeah that's pretty much a sign of vitality and sanity i must say
 
Listen to Beethoven's symphonies. 5, 7 and 9 first. Courage, humanity and power. This should suffice.

It's better to go to a therapist than taking meds, if this can be avoided. It may work but it won't affect the root of the problem. It's only if you're already depressed, which judging from your post isn't quite the case (this is positive). What a strange age we are in...
 
Jeff, do you partake in any recreational activities? Perhaps a good jog, swim, or the like, could channel a portion of this stress out from under ye?


(There must be a better therapy than listening to Natasha Bedingfield)
 
Therapy is rather expensive. And it's not really something you want to use health insurance to pay for. So, it adds up.
It *is* better than meds in some cases, especially the mild social anxiety Mr. J. seems to be experiencing.
Psychiatrists generally prescribe meds in lieu of therapy because they have a huge patient list and to use therapy instead of meds would require them to work around the clock 24/7 or drop half their clients. Thusly, they prescribe meds. Actually, most people never even make it that far: they get their primary care physician to prescribe them something. and never actually see a specialist.
 
I'd say Tenhi, Rome, and Nest.

Also check out some dark ambient, like Northaunt, Kammarheit, and Lustmord.
 
I was just thinking earlier today that I need to find a shrink. It's been nearly a decade and I miss the release. As for the meds, better living through chemistry, I always say. I love Prozac, but that's just me.

This is something I have thought about. But I just do not like taking daily meds. My wife did mention an improvement two years when I was taking them, though. I will only agree to meds as a last resort.


Ars Magna said:
I also listen to Strunz and Farah quite a bit when I need something upbeat yet relaxing.

General Zod said:
Strunz & Farrah is good.

I will check it out for sure.


Ars Magna said:
Lycia is bloody fantastic in terms of soothing music, imo, but some might say it's depressing.

swizzlenuts said:
I'd say Tenhi, Rome, and Nest.

Also check out some dark ambient, like Northaunt, Kammarheit, and Lustmord.

Dev said:
Listen to Beethoven's symphonies. 5, 7 and 9 first. Courage, humanity and power. This should suffice.

I've never actually heard any of these bands, though I've seen Lycia, Nest, Tenhi and Rome mentioned at times.

And regarding classical and jazz: I can listen to some classical and my wife has a huge collection of such stuff somewhere between 3 year old toys and shit diapers. I'll dig em out and maybe post what I find. She might have some jazz as well. Though, I admit, I have never been able to listen to jazz, or even jazz metal.


Doomcifer said:
Jeff, are you looking for music that is purely "soothing/tranquil" or mainly looking for music that is less "aggro/negative/dark" than most metal?

Good question and I'd say a bit of both. I picked up Envy - Insomniac Doze and the music is great, uplifting and soothing. Unfortunately, the vocals aren't all that soothing at times.I ordered Ulver's Perdition City, since this forum praises that album so much. That's it so far, but I'll check out the recos.

Alcest, Jesu, Pelican, Latter Swans, and the like are kinda what I'm looking for. But similar stuff to Jeff Buckley would be welcome.

Don't worry, I'm not gonna pull an Opeth17 and sell all my devil music.

Erik, I did try Cult of Luna again. While not being blown away, it wasn't exactly shit either. I take back my CoL hate.


dorian gray said:
Aside from the anger managment issues, J.'s plight sounds eerily similar to my own. I believe it's a pretty widespread phenomena really. I call it "Guys in Their Early Thirties Syndrome".

There is probably some truth to this. I work with a guy in the same boat as us. My trump is that I never fully accepted my mom's death. I never cried about it. I've visited her grave maybe twice in two years. I never mention her when talking to my daughter. I hate that my dad is trying to date. Maybe that's some psycho babble bull, or maybe I'm just a pussy, but I doubt it.

dorian gray said:
Therapy is rather expensive. And it's not really something you want to use health insurance to pay for. So, it adds up.
It *is* better than meds in some cases, especially the mild social anxiety Mr.
J. seems to be experiencing.

Psychiatrists generally prescribe meds in lieu of therapy because they have a huge patient list and to use therapy instead of meds would require them to work around the clock 24/7 or drop half their clients. Thusly, they prescribe meds. Actually, most people never even make it that far: they get their primary care physician to prescribe them something. and never actually see a specialist.

He told me that I am a high risk of quitting therapy since I dont like talking about my feelings and shit, and generally get uncomfortable when people try to make me talk. Health Insurance is picking it up for now. But then I believe I have to be officially diagnosed as having a disease (depression for example) for them to keep paying the bill. I really dont know how it works yet.

Mild anxiety. Is it mild when I'm at work and a customer says something to me and I want to rip off their head and shit down their neck? Erik might call that normal. :)


Jeff, do you partake in any recreational activities? Perhaps a good jog, swim, or the like, could channel a portion of this stress out from under ye?

I used to jog and do simple cardio work outs, but have since quit. No energy or will power. I love swimming though and I'm quite excellent at it. I would love to get a membership somewhere like the Y or a gym or even a local pool and just swim away to my heart's content. Good point there.

einride said:
tell him to shut up, that the music doesn't matter, and that you're paying the bill here (also, listen to the first antimatter album, it's not terribly depressing)

I think music does have an impact, though subconsciously. How much might depend on state of mind, though.

I saw all 4 Antimatter albums at a used store just the other day. Get them? I could do it tomorrow.

einride said:
don't take meds, you don't need meds unless shit seriously impedes your ability to function at all

agreed

einride said:
also "emotionally detached from society" haha yeah that's pretty much a sign of vitality and sanity i must say

haha i do see what you're saying. i am not kidding, i went to the mall this morning and i look around and picture myself running amok with a gun. i did tell the Doc this and he didnt say shit.

Cheers, guys.
 
tell him to shut up, that the music doesn't matter, and that you're paying the bill here (also, listen to the first antimatter album, it's not terribly depressing)

don't take meds, you don't need meds unless shit seriously impedes your ability to function at all

also "emotionally detached from society" haha yeah that's pretty much a sign of vitality and sanity i must say


that post

Anxiety and psychosomatic trouble and shit is mostly your brain telling your body to tell you that something is wrong. Try to "listen" to your discomfort as little as possible, even try to deny you're feeling bad, in other words biting the bullet yields more positive results at the end of the day than derivative medicine.

Physical activity helps, a lot, too, preferably in a quiet environment a little bit cut off from the swarm.
 
I realize this is the internet and that J. may be a fake account of Jerry's (who is, in fact, a fake account of *mine*) but some of you guys don't need to be dispensing with advice in this area.
 
I realize this is the internet and that J. may be a fake account of Jerry's (who is, in fact, a fake account of *mine*) but some of you guys don't need to be dispensing with advice in this area.

thanks for beating me to it.


Jeff, check out Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago or a little bit of Iron & Wine OR! how about some Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden/Laughing Stock.

I have absolutely hooked on Broken Social Scene but you would probably hate 'em...although I could never read your preferences very well.
 
I recommend music that's totally upbeat. Dance, hip-hop, stuff that can get the heart pounding instead of the mind drifting.

3 hours a day sounds like a lot to be immersed in music. is this casual background listening or sit down and get lost in music listening?
 
I recommend music that's totally upbeat. Dance, hip-hop, stuff that can get the heart pounding instead of the mind drifting.

3 hours a day sounds like a lot to be immersed in music. is this casual background listening or sit down and get lost in music listening?

i cant stand hip hop or dance music. always with headphones whilst surfing the web. for example, right now.
 
hmm, I don't know then. I really doubt that music has too much to do with anything else though. Sounds more like you use it for avoidance to deal with something else, rather than the choice of music itself.

I was very much lost in music in my late teens to mid 20's and also had to do a bout with therapy around the age of 25, depression, anxiety and the usual stuff. turns out I was a bit "too lost" and needed some guidance in life. none of which was coming from family or friends. it helped.
took some pills as well but after a while mood pills sucked the soul out of me and I slowly realized that if you you feel a certain way in a certain situation, it's normal. no need for pills to make the feeling go away.

the only thing I always go back to when I get some shit feelings is this ... depression and anxiety, all they are are uncommunicated internalized feelings. have someone, anyone to talk to at all times about anything. you know those people you know that always yap about anything to anyone and always seem upbeat??? they might be annoying, but they always get their emotions out, someway somehow.

of course, that "being a pussy" feeling is what you have to get rid of first.
 
everyone hates society
work sucks...
dunno about the dad situation
Im the last person that knows anything about relationships, but It's time to tell work to fuck off for a day or two and have some fun with the wife.
music? metal god dammit! and some classical of course

and as far as being anti social goes, fuck people. I only go shopping late at night. I cant stand being around dumbshit people.
 
I've found Explosions in the Sky The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place to be an uplifting album. I usually listen to it when I have a bad hangover haha. It's instrumental post-rock so no need to worry about the emo album and song titles.
 
ive thought about grabbing an EITS album. seriously.


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