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Jimmy... Dead.
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I have to admit...I'm not envious of anybody who has to make that call on the Collie hit. First of all, if Coleman didn't hit him, he probably makes the catch. He caught it, had it cradled, had two feet down, and turned, lowered his head and went forward. But Coleman didn't do nearly enough to avoid illegal contact. Even before Collie lowered his head, his strike zone was too high, and he hardly made any effort to get lower, as evidenced by the fact that he hit Collie on the top of his helmet. Even if he was a runner, Coleman should not be aiming that high. Of course, if Collie took one more step that would have been a catch and fumble and no penalty. Is the league going to overreact and give him a relatively high 5 figure fine? Absolutely. I wouldn't even be shocked if he was suspended for a game. But by the rules it's helmet to helmet contact on a defenseless receiver, which is definitely a penalty. What I have a bigger problem with is incidental contact to a quarterback's helmet by a defender's hand trying to go for the ball. I think you definitely need to look at intent there, as well as the actual result of the impact. Giving the Colts 15 yards and a first on what should have been a strip sack on 4th and 18 is kind of ridiculous just because a defender accidentally patted Manning on the head while reaching around him for the ball.
Mort Divine
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And Saints are back.
I know its the Panthers, but almost lost to them in the first game played against them this season. Nice to see an absolute ass handling.
I know its the Panthers, but almost lost to them in the first game played against them this season. Nice to see an absolute ass handling.
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This sums up my thoughts well.
As for the striking the QB in the head call, I think that was a makeup call from a previous no-call two plays before that, where one defender basically shoved his hand up Manning's facemask. That first hand to the head no-call was more egregious than the one that was actually penalized. Either way, this was yet another horribly officiated game.
AchrisK
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I can't believe we actually had another stupid set of special teams blunders. Anyone see this game? Can anyone tell me why there was no penalty on the defender who crashed into the SD punter?
Not the prettiest win, but there is no doubting, Rivers is a great QB. As was discussed about Manning earlier, it almost doesn't matter who he is throwing to. He gets it done.
Hopefully the Chargers follow their trend in recent years and have a great November and December. They have a bye next week, then the rest of the season is 2x Broncos and 1x each Chiefs and Radiers, The Colts, San Fran and Cincinnati.
I can easily see them winning at least 4-5 more games, which would make them 9-7 or 10-6.
The Jerry Jones comments today were quite ammusing...amidst the firing of Philips. Never have I heard a man say so much that meant so little...the guys has no clue. Its not about talent (wich they do have), wanting to win more than anything, having faith in teammates etc etc.
Its not always talent..the key in this day of the NFL (and its not easy)is to have every single one of the 53 men on the roster being on the same page, buying into and executing to the best of thier ability to what the head coach is game planning.
Steelers, Pats and Colts consistently do it well. The latter two doing it with rosters made up of many 1st or 2nd year players...or having to dive deeper than imagined (mainly the colts w / injuries) into the depth chart. Its amazing.
Its not always talent..the key in this day of the NFL (and its not easy)is to have every single one of the 53 men on the roster being on the same page, buying into and executing to the best of thier ability to what the head coach is game planning.
Steelers, Pats and Colts consistently do it well. The latter two doing it with rosters made up of many 1st or 2nd year players...or having to dive deeper than imagined (mainly the colts w / injuries) into the depth chart. Its amazing.
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Krigloch the Furious
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of course it's about the system. Look at Matt Cassel in New England.
They took a guy that didnt play in college and made him look awesome.
He's not a very good QB
They took a guy that didnt play in college and made him look awesome.
He's not a very good QB
(RE: MANNING)-Of course, he is the reason and makes the 1st and or 4th stringers better players. Only a few teams have the back-ups back-up that will make mistakes but atleast will have a clue and be prepared to a point. They will make thier mark on special teams in the meantime. These back-up players on other teams (DALLAS) are more worried about what cheerleader they are gonna bang after the game or to what resturant big Jerry will be taking them to?
Systems are created and implemented by the coaches. Players execute. I think Deion Sanders made the best point saying that the players on the Cowboys are "front-runners", as in they play well when things are going their way, and they quit when it isn't.
While that is the player's fault, it's also the fault of the entire coaching staff. Garrett is not the answer. I would love to see Cowher on the sidelines but doubt he will ever take orders from JJ. No one ever quit on Cowher or they would find their ass smacking the bench.
Well, that is the key. To find an experienced coach that will have it "be my way or the highway". The other factor is the Cowboys do have talent to build a system around. The big question is wich talent to rid of and wich to build around. Say what you will about Bill and the Pats. But Bill getting rid of Moss when he did was genious..especially paying off in long run. He knows what he has in many of his young promising rookies this year. To show Randy the door sent a huge positive message to the team but more so to the rookies. Its cliche..but its about team and not any one player.
Badbird
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The system is what important in the NFL. Look at why teams such as the Steelers, Colts, and Patriots are so great.
Jimmy... Dead.
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Mort Divine
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brooks55
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Damn you Atlanta. :Shedevil:
Tampa might wind up 10-6 & missing the playoffs. We should have taken care of business last week when we had the chance. Lot's of questionable calls against the Buc's in that game too, but I'm not going to blame that on the refs. We should have scored on our last drive & we didn't. We better crush Carolina Sunday, anything less & I won't be pleased.
Tampa might wind up 10-6 & missing the playoffs. We should have taken care of business last week when we had the chance. Lot's of questionable calls against the Buc's in that game too, but I'm not going to blame that on the refs. We should have scored on our last drive & we didn't. We better crush Carolina Sunday, anything less & I won't be pleased.
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Who are these "people?" I haven't read anything about it really in terms of analyzing the play. You know how big of a Steeler fan I am and how important a Ravens loss at this juncture ([/Tomlinism]) would be for them right now, but I always acknowledge when a team may have gotten short-changed here, and I definitely think the Ravens have a case in this instance. I can recall a couple of other times in recent years (against the Patriots and Titans I believe) where I felt they were screwed. They also have a penchant for whining a lot about being screwed, especially when they weren't really screwed. Anyway, this is an article written by a Pittsburgh newspaper about it:
Also, I wanted to bring this up on Tuesday after the Steelers game, but I figured I would've been called out for being a fanboy. The Steelers got screwed too on the Bengals' last scoring drive. Casey Hampton got flagged for roughing the passer and Ike Taylor got flagged for pass interference in the endzone. The Bengals got 35 of 36 yards on penalties that shouldn't have been called. But now the NFL came out and acknowledged that they blew those calls:
Also, the Giants' Steve Smith is out indefinitely with a pectoral injury. Maybe Sinorice Moss will get some playing time now. I don't think this will be too huge of a blow. Hakeem Nicks has had a serious coming out party and I have full faith in Mario Manningham.
brooks55
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We were 1-7 at this point last year. We are getting better every game & next year should be a real threat to go deep in the playoffs. We have so much young talent it's scary. We need to fill some holes on both lines & at linebacker, but other than that I am the happiest I have been as a Buc's fan since our Super Bowl win.
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