How about the 5756659984 times the Colts have won their division and been #1 seed and not made it to the Super Bowl.
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How about the 5756659984 times the Colts have won their division and been #1 seed and not made it to the Super Bowl.
Mort Divine
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Ryan is the king of dump offs and curl routes, and manages a game just fine, but he's no where near Rodgers.
WR wise the Packers definitely win out...much rather have Jennings and Driver than White and Jenkins. Obviously White is better than them both, but having that great #2 option is vital.
The running game is the only area the Packers fall behind in offensively, but if Starks can play like he did against the Eagles then he'll definitely give the Packers a nice way to seal out the game if they get a late lead. Burner is a beast though.
WR wise the Packers definitely win out...much rather have Jennings and Driver than White and Jenkins. Obviously White is better than them both, but having that great #2 option is vital.
The running game is the only area the Packers fall behind in offensively, but if Starks can play like he did against the Eagles then he'll definitely give the Packers a nice way to seal out the game if they get a late lead. Burner is a beast though.
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The Falcons and Packers run different types of offensive fronts, which I'm sure is obvious to you consider you're a Packer fan and the Falcons are the Saints' key divisional rival. But obviously the Packers' offense, especially this year, is much more oriented toward the passing game and to the big play. Ryan isn't exactly "captain dumpoff" or anything, however. If I were to rank all starting quarterbacks, I would have Rodgers 4th and Ryan 6th, with Brees in between them. Ryan has Michael Turner and Jason Snelling, in addition to a premiere fullback. Their offensive line is very physical and nasty, and by and large more geared toward driving blockers off for the running game than for pass protection, though they do well in both areas, better than the Packers' line does.
Wide receiver wise, overall, like I said, the Packers do win out, because they have more options. But passes to Gonzalez and Snelling do help to balance it out. The Falcons offense is more geared toward precise, strategic, calculated, time-consuming drives, which has always been Mike Mularky's specialty. In that sense I think it's a bit challenging to try to compare the overall quality of play. I will say that a defensive scheme that teams like the Ravens, Patriots, and Steelers employ are more susceptible, generally to the way the Falcons play than the way the Packers do.
Starks is not going to play the way he did against the Eagles. Their defensive line was depleted, and not as good as the Falcons'. I believe he'll have some success, because the Packers have been improving in run blocking and scheming out playcalling series that force the defense to put units susceptible to the run on the field, but I think any improvement they may have developed over the back half of the season has just taken a blow by making the Falcons aware of what they have to prepare for.
Of course I'm more than willing to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I hope you'll do the same. The Packers do have what it takes to win, but I don't think they will. Though, if they do win, you have to like their chances against the Bears (or the Seahawks
).
Mort Divine
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Definitely, after the Saints being beaten by the Seahawks I'm willing to accept that anything can happen.
PhlegethonVeins
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Look at what the guy has done this season despite having virtually no running game to back him throughout the majority of the season.
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Probably because he came out of all the Favre bullshit, untested and has done incredibly well, I think he's like a top5 passer stats wise..his offense definitely depends on him and it hasn't slipped
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PhlegethonVeins
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As a Packers fan I hope this will be true. I think the guy has done great, but he hasn't entered my "the greats" terrain yet. A couple years may change this though.
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That situation reminds me of the Montana-Young situation, except the Montana and Young won more championships. It must be a hell of a thing to go from one of the all time greats and basically not miss a beat with his replacement. I hope the Colts can pull that off one of these days.
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Go Pack!!! Beat the fucking Falcons!!! God damn it I hate them. I think they might be over taking the Eagles as my most hated team.
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Rodgers is already better than Favre. Matt Ryan clearly needs to mature more before the Falcons can ever be a legitimate playoff threat based on his postseason career up to this point.
Not that I'm trying to back down from my obligation of admitting that I overestimated the Falcons, but I didn't realize how banged up they were in the secondary, which, when playing the Packers, is crucial to have at least 5, and preferably 6 DBs of sufficient quality. I didn't know Brian Williams was out. Chris Owens was abused mercilessly in his place. DeCoud wasn't playing healthy either. Not that that would have made much of a difference. The Falcons completely played as though they weren't prepared to handle the magnitude of the game, especially Matt Ryan, who from a decision making standpoint played the worst game I've seen from him. Hopefully his and Joe Flacco's performances will put a temporary halt on their horrible nicknames (Matty Ice and Joe Cool), because neither of them were able to step up to the moment and utterly choked. I did think that the Falcons would win, but I thought it would be close, and I thought the Packers certainly more than a slim chance. Surely nobody counted on the mess of a performance the Falcons turned in, down to the playcalling. Mularky called a really disappointing game, in my opinion, though I feel that he probably tried to curtail the playbook after Ryan underthrew that first ball in the endzone to help calm his nerves. If the Falcons intend to have any success in the playoffs in the near future, they have to stop playing as though they're blessed to even be in the presence of other playoff teams, which is the same thing that they did in 2008 (did they even make the playoffs last year?). And even though I already thought very highly of the Packers secondary, they really turned it up today and probably had one of their 2 or 3 best performances of the season. Let's see if they can get past the Bears again. I certainly think the Bears have as good a chance of stopping the Packers as the Falcons did, assuming the stage isn't too big for Cutler.
Not that I'm trying to back down from my obligation of admitting that I overestimated the Falcons, but I didn't realize how banged up they were in the secondary, which, when playing the Packers, is crucial to have at least 5, and preferably 6 DBs of sufficient quality. I didn't know Brian Williams was out. Chris Owens was abused mercilessly in his place. DeCoud wasn't playing healthy either. Not that that would have made much of a difference. The Falcons completely played as though they weren't prepared to handle the magnitude of the game, especially Matt Ryan, who from a decision making standpoint played the worst game I've seen from him. Hopefully his and Joe Flacco's performances will put a temporary halt on their horrible nicknames (Matty Ice and Joe Cool), because neither of them were able to step up to the moment and utterly choked. I did think that the Falcons would win, but I thought it would be close, and I thought the Packers certainly more than a slim chance. Surely nobody counted on the mess of a performance the Falcons turned in, down to the playcalling. Mularky called a really disappointing game, in my opinion, though I feel that he probably tried to curtail the playbook after Ryan underthrew that first ball in the endzone to help calm his nerves. If the Falcons intend to have any success in the playoffs in the near future, they have to stop playing as though they're blessed to even be in the presence of other playoff teams, which is the same thing that they did in 2008 (did they even make the playoffs last year?). And even though I already thought very highly of the Packers secondary, they really turned it up today and probably had one of their 2 or 3 best performances of the season. Let's see if they can get past the Bears again. I certainly think the Bears have as good a chance of stopping the Packers as the Falcons did, assuming the stage isn't too big for Cutler.
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