Opeth going down the tubes? ...

I am not saying for certain what's going to happen, hence the title of this thread being a question....not a statement. I wanted to know other people's opinions, not get slammed for making a valid observation based on MANY other metal bands. You think this is a stupid thread? I think a lot of the REPLIES are retarded. Comments that read something like "Oh have faith man Opeth will always be tr00 King Jesus Akerfeldt will always be so tr00 you are a n00b" are blind, pathetic, and unwilling to acknowledge a possibility. I love Mike, Peter, and the Martins. Mike Akerfeldt has contributed more to metal and made more songs and albums (or did vocals on them) I like than almost any other musician on the planet, all of the Opeth albums, Breeding Death, Resurrection Through Carnage, and Brave Murder Day to name a few. However, that does not mean things won't happen that I don't want to, or YOU don't want to.

Don't believe me? I can whole heartedly acknowledge the overwhelming influence and affect Tagtgren has had on metal, from his days of filming videos of death metal epics in the ruins of a burned down church, to his experimentation with black metal (that was fucking awesome on the first album) with The Abyss, to Pain's Rebirth album.... But, acknowledging that DOESN'T change the fact that he now gives more of a shit about getting chicks backstage at PAIN concerts while wearing a puffed up jacket you'd expect to see in a rap video, gold chains and sports hats...no I'm not exaggerating some of you have seen the video interview I'm talking about. You think he didn't sell out? Catch 22 and The Arrival are the worst pieces of crap I've ever heard and this is coming from the band that made Penetralia, Osculum Obscenum, Abducted, and the Fourth Dimension and The Abyss side project and from a man who did the vocals on NMF.

Saying that it could NEVER happen is the truly sad, and ignorent reply. All I'm saying is, with labels out there like Century, Peaceville, Nuclear Blast, Moribund, Moonfog, The End, etc, etc, etc, out of all those and more, why would you go with Roadrunner? Yeah you might not be able to control the bands you tour with, but you sure as hell can choose the label that will be STICKING YOU with aforementioned "bands you can't choose to tour with."
 
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people are having this type of talk without having heard the album. The fact of the matter is, they haven't put out a single bad album. Deliverence was slightly less thrilling than other releases but it's still a damn good album. Until they Opeth releases a "reroute to remain" or other such nonsense I think everyone should just shut the hell up. Have some faith for fucks sake.
 
Death's Acre said:
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people are having this type of talk without having heard the album. The fact of the matter is, they haven't put out a single bad album. Deliverence was slightly less thrilling than other releases but it's still a damn good album. Until they Opeth releases a "reroute to remain" or other such nonsense I think everyone should just shut the hell up. Have some faith for fucks sake.
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The voice of reason.
 
I thought that this type of discussion was raised when Deliverance was released, because it was thought that were edging away from their previous "foresty feel" albums...

But the worry with the festival which has a few nu-metal bands, what are you worrying about? Stable musicians gaining influence from Davies? I'm sure ghost reveries or actually albums to come, won't have korn covers, or any influenced tracks from these bands! Well, we hope...!
 
In the Lamentations DVD documentary peter said that Opeth will do exactly what people expect them not to do...... I guess for the person who started this thread, its true... Plus Opeth is not reliable enough for mainstream..... Roadrunner will not control Opeth at all..... hhahhahahahahhahhaha..... I think Opeth's 7 albums show that they have no intention of ever selling out....
 
Mikael has too much sense to not sell out... he's like a fan, or like us. He hates sell outs just as much as we do.

OPETH GOING MAINSTREAM IS IMPOSSIBLE PERIOD. No matter what record label they're signed to, who the fuck they tour with, they'll always be forever true. And says Mikael himself, "the day Opeth go mainstream is the day Opeth dies". He's a dying breed of music lovers who puts the music first and the money second. Much respect to him, and glad he's making a living off of being true to the art.
 
This shit is all about a festival? Who fucking cares who Opeth play with on a 20+ band festival!? I wouldn't even be worrying if they were supporting KoRn on a 50 date tour...
 
Oh god, this thread is fkin useless.
"Oh no, Opeth is touring with a band I don't like, boohoo!!"
Sod off, what does it matter? That all those emo-kiddies are going to listen to Opeth now, discovering new musical grounds? I sure hope that's not your reason, who cares about fan-bases when you like the music. And about selling out, nonsense, releasing albums is meant to be profitable for any band, otherwise they wouldn't release any album. If Opeth wants to sell large quantities of their music, hell, I won't stop 'em!
 
I think the fact that mike still posts on this forum is one sign post that they are not going to change radically. Bands like Metallica and Paradise lost that make such radical changes are so far removed from thier fans, and maybe disenchanted by music, that they make drastic mainstream changes. As some-one said mike is a fan himself, so I dont see that happening

I cant fuckin wait for the new album.
 
With all the respect, I think that some of you guys are more in love with their "underground" derived identity than the music itself. I'm afraid Opeth isn't your obscure metal band anymore, the DD albums actually scored fucking high on the selling chart. Heck, their live DVD was playing at Sony's store and it's more and more common to see people with Opeth shirts. This is reality, like it or not. I mean, as long as you care for the music itself, what does it matter if Opeth have a Korn t-shirt or opens for fucking Britney Spears? In fact, Mikael said in an old interview that he did like a particular Korn song. Will I stop listening to Porcupine Tree because Steven Wilson is a fan of System of a Down? That's just crasy! To me, Opeth stayed true to themselves during their whole discographie and I'm confident that they'll continue to be so. If you guys are to worship your arcane musical taste, try Velvet Cacoon, Thergothon I don't know...but not Opeth. Otherwise, you'll be disappointed as some already are.
 
I think these idiots actually think that touring with RR bands will convert Opeth to nu metal.
 
It's a tough call, this kind of topic.

However, I have to say that I agree 100 percent. I think there are two sides to this argument though, as I guess as there is to any kind of discussion really.

Exposure these days, as opposed to say, the 1980's or earlier 90's is a tough thing. With the lack of originality in the music world overall (i.e. not just metal), exposure seems to create control over artistic expression. Whether its the labels, or if it's bands starting to cater for fans as opposed to their own expressive and artistic urges is hard to say.

Opeth moving to RR is a tough call indeed. Here we have a label which will (let's face it) increase Opeth's exposure tenfold. From the point of view of the band themselves, this is a good thing - their vision now gets to be experienced by a far greater audience, and also, they get to pay their rent, feed their families and enjoy a better standard of life. From a life perspective, there's nothing really bad about this, after all, who wouldn't love to make a living doing something they enjoy, outputting something artistic that you yourself take great enjoyment in?

The other side of the coin is what's being mentioned here, and I have to say I agree. The signing to RR could take an artistic turn on the band: will their music "soften"? Will they abandon their roots and commericalise themselves somehow? I guess we will see once GR is released.

Let's look at a positive example though, look no further than Iron Maiden. Sure, Maiden's albums are not as brilliant since Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, but one thing is certain: their album sales are MASSIVE, but they have stayed true to their roots, and kept doing what they do best. Because of that fact alone, they are still around today, almost in their 50s now, but still kicking ass like very few bands less than half their age can.

In the Metal world, Iron Maiden is about as common as the word "the". But overall in the world, Iron Maiden is still relatively underground, generally unfashionable: in the metal world though, they are undeniably cool as f**k. They have maintained their crown for over TWO DECADES, and why? Because the fans LOVE them and what they do.

It's a new metal generation now, and a new generation of passionate fans.

Is it possible that Opeth might follow the same path as Maiden? Can we hope that Opeth will continue to grow as only they can, and stay unique? Better still, can we show Opeth the same devotion Maiden's fans do?

Time will tell folks.
 
Alcapoth said:
A BETTER band is opening for them and going to show the crowd what REAL music is like, not some half-assed piece of shit.
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I disagree with this assessment. Korn or any other nu-metal fanbase could care less about Opeth, Dream Theater or Megadeth opening for them. I'm sure they're all gonna say how boring Opeth was when they were waiting for Korn to hit the stage.

I personally think it sucks Opeth is touring with Korn. Even if that gains them more fans, what good will it do? Opeth already sells better than pretty much any underground act. So what now? Getting nu-metal fans to buy their discs? Oh well.
 
It's gonna be awesome. Korn sucks...Opeth rules.


MAnifest Destiny bitches.


Opeth is going to dominate the world, and they're going to do it with their own sound and creativity. DEATH TO NU-METAL!


DSOUL....you're a fuckin idiot. The label means nothing.
 
Im looking forward to a possible music video? i just went on roadrunner and most of the bands on there have a music video so im going to assume opeth will make one but dont worry im sure it will be kick ass.
 
Well, even if Opeth sells out. Their albums will probably still be better than most metal bands out there today. So, I wouldnt worry about it. They have too much talent to produce a bad album.
 
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firstly, who gives a fuck. Some of you guys are acting like little kids
secondly, peter and mike said themselves in the documentary, they will never go mainstream - how the fuck can they be with how long and complex their tracks are?

Im looking forward to a possible music video? i just went on roadrunner and most of the bands on there have a music video so im going to assume opeth will make one but dont worry im sure it will be kick ass.
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me too. I just hope they dont edit the song they choose all to hell
 
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