Seth'Peth said:
Darfus, if you've only been playing for 1 year...I'm impressed if you can play what you say you can. Especially setting your sights so high with those drummers. BTW Minion, Portnoy regardless of his shitty attitude is a great drummer. Overrated, maybe...but most drummers will testify to his abilities.
The double bass can give you breakdowns...my problem was the obvious always speeding up while trying to maintain a steady speed. That's just straight dbl bass...trying to do the fancy stuff is harder. Don't know if you can, but if you're really serious...20+ hours isn't enough. The 2 friends I had that were excellent drummers played every minute they weren't in school or working. I would guess 35-40 a week...that's why I never got that good, didn't have the time or drive. As far as size, I don't think it matters...my friends were of both sizes you mentioned. The shorter one was the speed/thrash guy while the taller was the Portnoy style. They could each play the other style effectively though.
Good luck and keep working at it.
Seth
Hey thanks a lot. That means A LOT to me. That's the closest I get to my own personal fans. Heh.
Ugh, yea I have that same problem. Speeding up when i'm not suppose to! Ugh. I don't get it. Some days I awesome, I find best when I'm relaxed and my legs aren't tense. But, that's hardto do when you're so into the music. Maybe i'll try screaming to get the extra energy out.
The only reason i only play 20+ hours a week is because of my hands. My hands will rip, I have bought gloves but I don't like them and they make me feel restricted. No good. I still have muscle to build, some of the Lopez ride 16th notes with one hand are strenuous. And, obviously the double bass.
Yes, I agree with you. The shorter one was more trashy and speed. Taller Portnoy, that's like me. But i want to be both and have to work extra hard... I can't tell you how sore I am and feel liek shit for days after having a drum-marathon all day. (there's one day every so often where I play about 7-8 hours with 2-3 breaks and play many Opeth/DT albums) I don't play them perfect of course, there's just some parts that I can't do. Fatal Tradegy (Dream Theater song) there's one part... Man.
Hmmm I'm going to think of the hardest Lopez section I can. and Edit it here when I flip through the albums Still Life +
Ok, now I'm not going for his best work, i'm going for the most physically challenging (and mentally, drumming is not 100% physical, hahah, that was retarded..)
Still Day Beneath The Sun
Patterns In The Ivy 1 & 2
Prologue
I don't know man.. Deliverance is just... BUT, the fact that he doesn't play anything EXACTLY how he does on the album PISSES me off. I know he CAN, either he doesn't feel like memorizing the parts, or he gets bored and doesn't want to feel like a machine. Even though he is one.
"sometmies you know, you have to play machine-wise"-Lopez.hahah i love em.
But yea, deliverance is on that list, so many difficult sections, the one before the outro? OK. whatever you know. the outro itself. many sections. The part before the outro, starts at like 8:30.. random ride bell hits with tom hits, snare hits, bass drum. annoying me because it's to 'WTF' for me.
By the pain i see in others is pretty talented, I'm going to say that without listening to the song because i don't feel like it, i'm watching the jets game.
Then, Lopez has the classic MACHINE GUN double bass with blazing rigth hand speed at the same time, (April Ethereal). Ok, this post for me is just a realiztion of how much I suck, so, i'm going to stop. later all! well this was an edit not a post.
Portnoy is a piece of shit, Jesus Christ he is so over rated, everyone always puts him in the list of so called elite drummers, he's a fuckin turd who thinks hes top dog. His attitude is fuckin atrocious, and he can't touch drummers like Bozzio, Carey, and Weckle. As for Lopez, to me he is the most subtly amazing drummer in Metal, the stuff he pulls off is often overlooked but he kind of takes a humble and musical approach to his writing, and he excels at doing it. Especially his stuff on MAYH, which is by far his best work, have you people ever sat down and tried to play that, its very challenging to keep on the mark even though it doesnt sound it.
I understand how you feel. Can't deny his talent though. Some parts are quite polyrythmic.
Reinert was one of the better all-around drummers, well when he played metal. While Martin, to some small degree, be a multifarious drummer, he couldn't keep up with Reinert. As he couldn't keep up with quite a few drummers in the metal realm.
