Racist Metal...

Originally posted by Sonnenritter
Also, how is discriminating someone because he/she is a negro or an asian different than hating due to religion?

Simple. A person makes his or her own choice whether or not to belong to a religion. The same is not true for race.
 
I actually read the 100 facts, and it shocked me. They are all true, and the quote from Robert Lee (Confederate General):

"Wherever the black man comes to, starts to demise".

This is backed up with many facts about how before Blacks came to America, how school was up and crime was down.

I'm not 100% racist, but denying some shit about Black people is just wrong. I don't care what black people do, as long as they don't steal anything from me because they are trying to live up to their "black image" which sort of goes like: "We are black, we can kick your ass, watch me put some caps in you". Not all blacks are like this, I have very good friends, but stupid ones influeneced by that god-awful Rap music tend to be ignorant bags of shit.
 
Originally posted by Sonnenritter
That's pretty funny... calling NSBM a "trend". Seems to me that all of you dislike it. Hell, every message board I read is packed to the brim with anti-racialists.

And what did viking themes have to do with black metal? Not shit, but I don't see everybody bitching like a school girl with a sucker in her hair because of it. Or Christianity for that matter. Why not go bash Extol and Enslaved a bit? And fuck, Humus, you quote a white racialist. Although he denies being a National Socialist, it is VERY clear that he says "My white fist held with pride!" on the opening track to a Sarcophagus album, which I think is "Requiem To The Death of Passion" or some extra-long cheesy black metal name similar to that. Also, how is discriminating someone because he/she is a negro or an asian different than hating due to religion? Fuck off, Mr. Double Standard.


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maybe you are right, I am a rascist, but there is only one race I think should be exterminated: Americans. I am totally anti-american. Offcourse I have American friends, but 99,99% of the american population should be exterminated. You are part of the most idiotic society ever! You and your country keep on polluting the world. You keep on ruling the world, making decisions that are negative to the whole world. I really can't stand the american attitude :mad:
I do not dislike NSBM, read my posts more carefully. I listen to the music but I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE POLITICS. That does not mean I dislike the music!
I am also not anti-rascist. I think everybody can have it's own opinion. I do not like extreme political opinions (leftwinged or rightwinged) but I will never make a remark about that to that person, it's his opinion.
Originally posted by Sonnenritter
Also, how is discriminating someone because he/she is a negro or an asian different than hating due to religion?
You must be really dumb... people can not choose their skincolor but people can choose their religion! If you are black you are black! if you are a christian you can always 'stop' being a christian. My parents were raised as christians, but now they aren't anymore, hell, they are as much antichristian as I am. Christians can change, people with different skincolors can't.

Originally posted by Sonnenritter
And what did viking themes have to do with black metal? Not shit, but I don't see everybody bitching like a school girl with a sucker in her hair because of it. Or Christianity for that matter. Why not go bash Extol and Enslaved a bit?
Do vikings try to convince me to take an extreme political point of view? No, they make music and lyrics about a long lost tribe. They aren't political.
What I do like about NSBM is the fact that they want to reinstall the ancient traditions. They want to go back to a pre-christianity like society. I like that idea a lot, although it's utopical.


Originally posted by Sonnenritter
you quote a white racialist. Although he denies being a National Socialist, it is VERY clear that he says "My white fist held with pride!" on the opening track to a Sarcophagus album, which I think is "Requiem To The Death of Passion"
I did not know about that. In the end, it's the quote itself that matters, and that quote explains my thought about politics in black metal exactly.
 
Originally posted by humus666



HAHAHAAAA
maybe you are right, I am a rascist, but there is only one race I think should be exterminated: Americans. I am totally anti-american. Offcourse I have American friends, but 99,99% of the american population should be exterminated. You are part of the most idiotic society ever! You and your country keep on polluting the world. You keep on ruling the world, making decisions that are negative to the whole world. I really can't stand the american attitude :mad:

You know, I've been following this thread for some time now with interest, and you've just made it to the top of the fucking idiot list, congratulations.

Saying that 99.99% of all Americans should be exterminated is simply asinine. That's like saying ALL blacks are ignorant and lazy. Or all Asians are short. Or all Jews are cheap. I mean, for crying out loud, don't display your ignorance here for everyone to see. Shithead Americans are the SAME as everyplace else, dumbass. There are shithead British, French, Germans, Belgians (you come to mind), Japanese, Russians, Turkish, Iranians, Moroccans, Brazilians...should I go on? They are the MINORITY. Look up the word and you might learn something today.

Moreover, "Americans" are a amalgam of peoples from EVERY single ethnic race on the planet. So you're basically saying that ALL people should be exterminated, since you hate us all. Idiot.

EDIT: LOL, I take it all back. You're 16, which means you REALLY don't know shit. Now shut the fuck up and get ready for school moron.
 
First of all, get a life.
Second, I'm only 15, but hey, I'm used to being ignored and getting shit because of my age. Maybe when you people were 15 you were dumb and couldn't make up your mind, but I know what I want and I have my own opinions.
About my opinions about america, I still have the same opinion. Before you start your shit about my age and not knowing anything about the subject, I wish to tell you I have read several books, interviews and articles about the matter. In the end, america will destroy the world. They keep on supporting israel while jews have nothing to do on those grounds, they belong to the palestinians. They keep on polluting the world, they even ignore the decisions made in Tokyo. They continue building an anti-rocket shield, what will only cause more violence against america itself. The current acts against terrorism will only result in more anti-american feelings by muslims, resulting in more terrorist attacks. America is trying to uniform the world to american standards. Cultural diversity doesn't matter anymore, we all need a McDonalds near us, watch american movies and look up to american popstars.
I, in general, don't like the country.
 
Originally posted by humus666
First of all, get a life.
Second, I'm only 15, but hey, I'm used to being ignored and getting shit because of my age. Maybe when you people were 15 you were dumb and couldn't make up your mind, but I know what I want and I have my own opinions.
About my opinions about america, I still have the same opinion. Before you start your shit about my age and not knowing anything about the subject, I wish to tell you I have read several books, interviews and articles about the matter. In the end, america will destroy the world. They keep on supporting israel while jews have nothing to do on those grounds, they belong to the palestinians. They keep on polluting the world, they even ignore the decisions made in Tokyo. They continue building an anti-rocket shield, what will only cause more violence against america itself. The current acts against terrorism will only result in more anti-american feelings by muslims, resulting in more terrorist attacks. America is trying to uniform the world to american standards. Cultural diversity doesn't matter anymore, we all need a McDonalds near us, watch american movies and look up to american popstars.
I, in general, don't like the country.

That's all well and good that you've read things in the culturally, politically and socially biased media. Remember, everyone's got an agenda.

BUT, you managed to completely ignore and disregard EVERYTHING I wrote. You don't like the American government? Good for you! Many Americans don't either. You don't like American foreign policy in the Middle East? Too fucking bad. It's again, a government decision.

You're still clueless if you actually think that because a government makes questionable decisions then the whole of its people are at fault. If you've read so much, then tell me if it was the German peoples fault because of Hitler? Tell me if its the impoverished Iraqii people who are to blame because of Saddam Hussein. You're so fucking IGNORANT it actually makes me mad. Don't bother going to school. You just got a lesson.
 
@humus666 - out of interest, what country are you from?

Although the debate about American policy etc is viable and worthy of discussion, it's a little extreme to say that you want all Americans exterminated.

You also admit to being a racist - is that discrimination towards "Americans" (whatever that means) only or any other grouping too?
 
Originally posted by Morbid Visions
I actually read the 100 facts, and it shocked me. They are all true, and the quote from Robert Lee (Confederate General):

"Wherever the black man comes to, starts to demise".

This is backed up with many facts about how before Blacks came to America, how school was up and crime was down.

I'm not 100% racist....[/B]

How black people "came" to America eh? Let's just use a few brain cells here and remember how indeed the Africans made it to American shores....
 
Originally posted by JayKeeley


How black people "came" to America eh? Let's just use a few brain cells here and remember how indeed the Africans made it to American shores....

They swam right?
 
Originally posted by humus666
HAHAHAAAA
maybe you are right, I am a rascist, but there is only one race I think should be exterminated: Americans. I am totally anti-american. Offcourse I have American friends, but 99,99% of the american population should be exterminated. You are part of the most idiotic society ever! You and your country keep on polluting the world. You keep on ruling the world, making decisions that are negative to the whole world. I really can't stand the american attitude :mad:

i would never say this is a proper argument or attitute in a serious discussion, but i have to admit almost every time i see or read the news i get quite the same feeling.

dear US-americans, PRETTY PLEASE abolish your case law system and stop suing everyone for your own stupidity and claim several billion dollars (and, most important - WIN these cases). this would be a very important first step to gain some respect in europe and probably the rest of the world.
 
Originally posted by markgugs
You don't like the American government? Good for you! Many Americans don't either. You don't like American foreign policy in the Middle East? Too fucking bad. It's again, a government decision.

You're still clueless if you actually think that because a government makes questionable decisions then the whole of its people are at fault.

just an idea, but - a government is voted by the majority of the people. the politicans in the government belong to this people so they have a few things with the people they govern in common.
 
Originally posted by markgugs
@Stormbringer: You're assuming we care what the rest of the world thinks of us, hmm?

Good thing I don't run this place...borders would've been closed a LOOOONNNNGGGG time ago. :rolleyes:

assuming you are an US-american:

well, you have just proven why the the world laughs, pities, dislikes and sometimes even hates the US.

your utter ignorance combined with hypocrisy.

from my side, nothing more needs to be added :)
 
Originally posted by Stormbringer


just an idea, but - a government is voted by the majority of the people. the politicans in the government belong to this people so they have a few things with the people they govern in common.

Well not really, but congratulations for figuring out the basic tenet of democracy.

Now, let me just throw a couple numbers at you. Rough population of the United States = 265 million people. Rough voting turnout was around 50% give or take. That leaves us with about 130 million or so people that "voted."

Now, I'll wait for you to get up to speed before heading into the 2nd semester of Democracy 102.

*waits*

Ok, still with me? Good. The actual PEOPLE who live and vote in the United States RARELY, if ever, have their individual votes count. It's the electoral colleges that decide elections in the USA. So in truth, it's a MINORITY who decides the President. Not the "people" so to speak. Yes, the votes count, just not as much as you oh-so-intellectually superior Europeans seem to think.

But even if they DID, there are STILL over 100 million people in the USA who in all likelihood do not agree with our current leadership (or any leadership at any given time). Follow?
 
Originally posted by Stormbringer


assuming you are an US-american:

You obviously don't pay attention to sigs, do you? Now I'll wait while you check my sig.

well, you have just proven why the the world laughs, pities, dislikes and sometimes even hates the US.

your utter ignorance combined with hypocrisy.

Exactly what did I prove? That I've had it with morons invading our country and feeling they can do whatever the fuck they feel like while they're here? Why? Because they saw it on TV? Oh shit, looks like anything goes on 'Baywatch' - let's move Helga!

I have no problem with people who come to the US, and become productive members of society. You know, get jobs, at least make an attempt to learn OUR specific culture and way of life, pay taxes, etc. It's those who could care less. They're worse than parasites. Because all they do is suck and leech the very fabric of the society they wish to be a part of. Of course I wouldn't close our borders (though it would sure make this a nicer place at times) - hell, my ancestors from only 2 generations ago came from Italy - but for crying out loud, don't make such asinine generalizations!

from my side, nothing more needs to be added :) [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, yes, the classic "I have nothing further to say" defense. It's a good one. It's hard to debate w/ yourself :rolleyes:

But, should you change your mind, please explain to me how I'm ignorant and hypocritical. Thanks.