Received a reply from Deron, he was banned for 5 days for making a troll account.
He didn't seem like the type that would bother with a troll account.
I'd hate for someone to use my account. Welcome back.Indeed, and I didn't. A friend of mine, while in an incredibly drunken state, made an account while using my computer and abused a few people. No great loss, but I'm pleased to be back. And my regards to all who consider me a good addition to this board.
Whenever I hear or read someone about someone saying "Black Metal is dead" I always think about painting, and how in the fine art world, every 10 years or so (ever since the camera was invented) some douche says that painting is dead, and the art world shuns it for a while, until a few years later it of course comes "back".
Some forms of art, for whatever reason, have the bad luck of being proposed as dead every so often. I suppose because people think nothing more can be done with it. And they are always proven wrong.
I agree, it's black metal though not everyone agrees on it being black metal.That is the truth. And ironically, some people who claim that a certain genre/art form is dead take part in said art/genre unapologetically when it surfaces again, claiming they never really thought it was dead.
Responding to an earlier post, how is Emperor's "Anthems" not BM?
Because it pretty much isn't. It lacks any of the aesthetic qualities of black metal. That's pretty plain to see. You basically can play any types of riffs you want and be black metal if you have the right aesthetics. Aesthetics are a representation of spirit, ideology, attitude, etc. Anthems doesn't cary itself like black metal. Samoth was playing the same riffs on that album as on all the Zyklon albums. Ihsahn was getting into more of his prog tendencies. Both pushed Emperor into a non-descript "extreme" sound. If a band without Emperor's legacy had recorded that album it probably wouldn't be considered black metal. Because I don't like to categorize albums as "extreme" it still goes into black metal by default, even though I don't really agree.
Saying Black Metal is "dead" really depends on what you consider Black Metal as. If you mean just the First Wave, then yes. If you limit it as only the norweigian scene, then yes it is.
Quite honestly, I think BM is very much alive. There's a load of bands, both "mainstreem" (as mainstreem as such a genre can get, it obviously is only "mainstreem" in extreme metal terms) like Dark Funeral, Marduk, Belphegor, Watain and 1349 (I live in France, these bands are very popular here) and a lot of more underground bands for the more "kvlt" of us such as Deiphago, Merrimack, May Result, The Ruins Of Beverast and loads more...
Of course there are always people who bemoan it being dead because it isn't entirely underground and some groups get famous, well, to that I have to say... if they didn't get famous, they most probably wouldn't tour near where you live!
can we get some taake on this?