The "controversial opinions" thread!

Also there is no damn thing as a "natural diet", living creatures aren't just created with a set rules of "EAT THIS AND NOT THIS FOR ALL TIME". Eat whatever you need to stay alive, that's the only "natural" diet.
 
You can argue that Atheism is a religion in as much that it requires some fairly strong structures, but at the end of the day the thing that separates it from the rest is that there is no dogma. There is no "law" in that sense. Yes, it rejects the notion of theism, i.e. a supernatural deity, but it can only form its beliefs on probability, logic, observation etc.

I wouldn't even say that. You can be an Atheist and still be spiritual (you could be a Buddhist and an Atheist, for example). Then again, everyone has their own definition of Atheist, I just like to keep it as open as possible. "Doesn't believe in any god/s".
Even if God came down an announced his presence accompanied by empirical evidence, one could still be an Atheist (and idiot, perhaps) by rejecting belief in God then.


I'd read a number of people are lactose intolerant, or at least can tolerate it but its not particularly good for them. Could be broscience though. When I had acne, stopping dairy helped my skin out. It's often one of the things to stay away from when you're older, but what to doctor's know about nutrition! (no sarcsam) It's so yummy though!

Please show me where I could buy a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with 2Gb RAM and a 120GB hard drive for £70 4 years ago. Seriously.

Goddamn, show me a Mac that could do that 4 years ago for £700.
 
Maybe I'm going a bit far back, let me check my emails.

Hmm, turns out I bought it 2 years ago, could have sworn I'd had it longer than that. Apparently not.

Anyway, point still stands imo. 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with 2Gb RAM and a 120GB hard drive for £70. New.
 
I know a few people who get really really sick when they drink milk or eat anything related to it.

Yes and the same could be said of many other foods for many INDIVIDUALS.
Doesn't mean it's bad for EVERYONE.
Some people are lactose intolerant, or have certain milk allergies, but I'll continue to safely consume 600mls to 1.5L per day of it because it causes me no such problems.
 
Maybe I'm going a bit far back, let me check my emails.

Hmm, turns out I bought it 2 years ago, could have sworn I'd had it longer than that. Apparently not.

Anyway, point still stands imo. 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with 2Gb RAM and a 120GB hard drive for £70. New.

I wasn't defending his point, it's clearly an exaggeration. Also, choosing a laptop which you have to get 'premade' either PC or Mac, is not the same as comparing desktops, where you can build a PC, but are forced to buy a 'premade' for Mac.
The PC that I'll be building next week seems to be, as far as hardware goes and as far as I know, far superior to the Mac Pros that retail from $4.5k-6k here in Australia. The PC I'm building is $1.1k (I'm reusing parts from old PCs to lower the price a bit, but that's something that's exclusive to PC's so I won't compensate). The OS may perform a little better, I'm not sure, but I find it too frustrating to use.
 
Please show me where I could buy a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with 2Gb RAM and a 120GB hard drive for £70 2 years ago. Seriously.

I'll admit I hate Apple fanboys, but statements like this are just absolute bullshit. Impossible to upgrade? I threw in a new hard drive and upgraded my RAM using only 2 screwdrivers. What's impossible about that?

The concept if hyperbole is clearly new to you. Anyway post by Morgan C already shows up to 5(!) times cheaper gear which is superior(as he claims) to overpriced Mac pro. Yes the 10 times was exaggerated. You said you hate Apple fanboys yourself so not going to argue with you about that anymore, but had to make this one clear.

And on the upgrading parts, you missed one thing. By doing that you most propably void warranty for the whole machine. Whereas in a PC(which I bought waay cheaper) I can modify everything I want without worrying as long as I don't fuck things up badly in there. Also, modyfying RAM and HDD is not pinacle of hardware customisation you know(only cases i know of that won't void the warranty in macs, hdd swap does void it in macs pro afaik though).
You could argue that you upgraded machine that was after its warranty date, but well, if I ever paid for ovepriced junk I would rather have my warranty intact.

And yes, I meant desktops, not laptops(obviously, cause I'm talking about customisation). But still, laptops are also way cheaper than Macs for same hardware specifications.

And about Iphones, I agree they are possibly best smartphones around at this time. But still the fact, that you can't run any application you want on it(it has to be approved by the overlord Steve first) is kinda lame.

Back to the atheism and religion thing, Aaron - atheism is not putting oneself in the position of God. The concept of God is simply void for atheists. You really shouldn't be forcing subjective theistic way of thinking on yourself to understand atheism cause you will end up saying that atheism is a religion, which is clearly wrong. You need to switch to the ,,what the fuck is this God thingy?" mindset to properly grasp the concept.
 
But... he IS right though. Of course we gain nutrients from it, but that's not to say it's for our consumption.

The protein strains within cows milk are not meant for our digestive system, and that's why people become lactose intolerant. We are, in fact, ALL intolerant to cows milk to some degree, it's just more insidious for most of us. Cut out dairy from your diet and your skin will clear up, eyes get whiter, digestive system functions more smoothly, and your respiratory system increases efficiency.

Not... a huge amount, to be fair :lol: But it's noticeable.

Here's a more clear-cut way of putting it - What do people tell you NOT to have when you're chesty/congested? Milk. But it's magically ok for you when you're not ill? Bullshit. If it's bad for you when you're ill, it's bad for you when you're not ill. When you're not ill, though, your body can just cope with it better.

So yes, although for arguments sake we CAN drink cows/goats/dogs/whatevers milk, that doesn't mean we should. It's not part of our natural diet.

Okay, but still, many of the foods that humans 'naturally' eat can potentially cause problems too.
I'm not convinced that a moderate daily consumption of milk is harmful to most people.
Eat a ton of anything, even the 'healthiest' foods out there can result in health problems.
I can't find any convincing studies saying reasonable amounts of milk is particularly bad for the digestive system outside proper lactose intolerance suffefers, but you can sure as hell find some quality studies showing the effectiveness of milk for athletes, which to me is more important anyway since an athlete puts far more stress on their body than some fat fuck couch potato that doesn't lift a limb
The fact is, milk remains one of the best source of protein money can buy and no other food source can lay claim to being the king of post workout nutrition as far as giving the athlete protein and also hydrating through the electrolytes contained in milk.

And considering how much of society eats food with zero micronutrional value and loaded with trans fat, high in sodium and poor in potassium (whereas milk is higher in potassium than it is sodium), I tend to think my consumption of milk, along with a lot of other quite micronutrionally dense food is not so much of a crime :lol:
 
Yes and the same could be said of many other foods for many INDIVIDUALS.
Doesn't mean it's bad for EVERYONE.
Some people are lactose intolerant, or have certain milk allergies, but I'll continue to safely consume 600mls to 1.5L per day of it because it causes me no such problems.

good for you! :)

Actually 12 million people are diagnosed with lactose intolerance in germany. That's a lot. Of course not everyone suffers from it.

I'm a lucky boy, though. I would starve without my cornflakes.
 
Harry Hughes:

Cow's milk is linked to diabetes in children and multiple sclerosis. I've even read in The Times that its linked to cancer too. I still have a glass of it every so often and use it in tea, coffee and cereal. But it is totally unnatural. I've heard raw goat's milk is the best thing if you consume a lot of milk.
 
Harry Hughes:

Cow's milk is linked to diabetes in children and multiple sclerosis. I've even read in The Times that its linked to cancer too. I still have a glass of it every so often and use it in tea, coffee and cereal. But it is totally unnatural. I've heard raw goat's milk is the best thing if you consume a lot of milk.

Guess what: http://hellokinsella.posterous.com/the-daily-mail-list-of-things-that-give-you-c

if you're worried about things being unnatural then stop eating cooked food and live in a tree.
 
To be honest, the way we live is a far cry from how we "should". But as people have already hinted at - where do you draw the line? But just because I don't drink milk doesn't mean I should live in a mud hut and wear a grass skirt.

Also, FWIW, of course we have a "natural" diet. We didn't just spring out the ground next to a Starbucks and Burger King :lol: