The "controversial opinions" thread!

Atheism is essentially just putting oneself in the position of Ahura Mazda. There may be no precise doctrinal guidelines or universal rituals required to be an atheist, but to become an atheist requires a conscious decision to reject any and all evidence that Ahura Mazda has made evident. The lifestyle of an atheist may appear to be quite different than the life of a more obviously religious person, but an atheist is really just worshiping a different god. The biggest lie about atheism is that it is merely some kind of default position- as if one can live out their entire life, yet remain absolved from the responsibility of having to ultimately accept or reject Ahura Mazda. Yet, if Ahura Mazda exists and he has adequately revealed himself to the world, then no one has any excuse. I find it entirely reasonable that Ahura Mazda would desire a humble heart and mind in order to reveal himself, and I have never met an intellectually humble atheist.

So, atheism may not be a cohesive religion in the traditional sense of the term, but an atheist is most definitely a religious person.

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People who are constantly believing in conspiracy theories need to understand that most of them are just made up.

Existence is a cold, chaotic series of events and not everything happens for a reason. More often then not, the simplest reason is the right one. Just cause it's fun to think that somehow the government has kept alien landings a secret for example, doesn't give it any validity at all. In reality, it would be impossible to keep something like that a secret.

Just like now with the whole Osama thing. He's fucking dead. Period. People are making a big stink about the body being dumped in the ocean, but their are 2 simple explanations that I think people are forgetting.

1. Even if the US kills him, they have to treat him with respect, or they will deal with retaliation all over the world and US soldiers will get fucked up.

2. Maybe "someone" absolutely fucked his body up, and commanding officers made the choice to ditch his body so no one would ever know that a crew member carved a star of david in his chest or something crazy.

Anyways, point I'm making: Think logically, and stop thinking that there's a giant super power that's constantly doing crazy elaborate hoaxes.
 
Anyways, point I'm making: Think logically, and stop thinking that there's a giant super power that's constantly doing crazy elaborate hoaxes.

What's funny to me is how much genius and power these conspiracy theories attribute to government... do people really think a guy like Bush would be capable of keeping 9/11 being an inside job a secret? :lol:
 
Everything is one and thus has always been perfect and always will be perfect and once a realization of this occurs, everything reconciles itself with everything else. This leaves more than enough room for khaos, order, science, spirituality, everything.

Hate begets hate and violence begets violence, you don't need to be religious to understand this. I accept the path of those who are atheists. I do not accept that they seem very content to continue driving up barriers between themselves and everything/everyone else that doesn't follow the same line of strict rationalism and logic. This comes back to the unity of all things.

Wee, controversy.

Edit: Hell, I'll continue.
Sure, there may be a point where retaliation is needed, if only in the interest of self-preservation. But to act as though you are right and they are wrong for your choice of action is deluded at best. For them to also act this way is equally as stupid.
Morality is an illusion of our own creation, ultimately. Yes, it is needed to keep things chugging along in a physical sense, but mentality it's important to keep in mind that there is truly no right or wrong, only experience and that as long as you're not hurting anyone else, it's fine to just continue doing whatever you are doing.
Unfortunately, both Atheism and Organized Religion bring harm to people, be it emotional, physical, spiritual, whatever. This is why I partake of neither.
 
No offense, but you clearly have an exceptionally poor understanding of nutrition at best.
When we ingest food, our body does not think "Ohh, this food source is natural.......oh this isn't natural'.
Nor does it run on any kind of clock and work in any way remotely like a thinking thing or perhaps like a computer.
You ingest food, it will use the macronutrient and micronutrient value from it, regardless of what the food is, PERIOD.
Milk is an exceptionally high quality source of protein for human beings and has a good micronutrient profile

If you truly believe that ridiculous fear mongering that you've read about cow's milk being unnatural for humans.........I just don't know what to say.

how about you say nothing? ...as my body cannot digest milk/dairy properly, much like an even larger population of people that are lactose intolerant as well. nearly 75% of adults worldwide show a decline in lactase activity during later adulthood and it is result of a lack of the biological enzyme lactase in the digestive system.

i will not say "you are wrong" however i am completely right in my case and many others.

our bodies are chemistry ...and many adults - by the time they reach the age of 50 - will have an 80% chance of rejecting the lactose component due to the lack of that fundamental enzyme which is provided initially during child birth for breast feeding. in nature all "mother's milk" have similar dietary compounds or "nutrient profiles." so for a certain amount of time humans can process milk as a building component because of the significant nutrients but much like cheeseburgers, it's something that will inherently misguide the exemplary nutrition of a human body.

i could go on and on. it's simple chemistry and not fear mongering. i cannot digest milk among millions of others, therefore it is completely un-natural.
 
I *CAN* ingest milk, and do so frequently.

Doesn't mean I'd suck a cows tits though.
 
I just wanna know what guy originally decided to get it from a cow... did he go around drinking the tit-juice of every other mammal before he settled on that one being the best? What if Koala milk is the best shit in the world and we just don't know it yet?
 
I just wanna know what guy originally decided to get it from a cow... did he go around drinking the tit-juice of every other mammal before he settled on that one being the best? What if Koala milk is the best shit in the world and we just don't know it yet?

he/she probably watched the offspring drink from the mother. then killed the mother and drank it's milk.

obviously (at that point) too stupid to cook the animal with fire.


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hahahahha!!! (i see what you mean)! and the answer is most likely - yes!
 
Back to the atheism and religion thing, Aaron - atheism is not putting oneself in the position of God. The concept of God is simply void for atheists. You really shouldn't be forcing subjective theistic way of thinking on yourself to understand atheism cause you will end up saying that atheism is a religion, which is clearly wrong. You need to switch to the ,,what the fuck is this God thingy?" mindset to properly grasp the concept.

I hear what you're trying to say- that an atheist doesn't literally consider himself to be some kind of god, and being that an atheist believes there to be no actual deity in control of the universe and no spiritual beings at work in the world, then psychologically, the concept of God is void...I won't argue with that, and I can see why that makes sense on the surface. But what I'm saying, is that from a functional standpoint, atheists are choosing to live as if they are their own god; that if God exists and has made his presence knowable in some way, atheists have chosen to let their own intellect take precedence over God's revelation. In that way, they have made their own intellect their god, completely ignoring that the path to belief may not be strictly a matter of intellectual accumulation.

Nothing I've posted in this thread so far is even specific to a Christian worldview- I am only arguing that if God exists and he has made his existence knowable, then atheists, with all their intellect, are completely and utterly missing the point because they have chosen their own minds to be gods, as it is their own mind that is keeping them from knowing God. If God doesn't exist, then fine- everything I do and believe is utterly meaningless anyway, but the question of God and eternity is certainly important enough that it deserves serious consideration...consideration that reaches beyond the conclusions can be drawn by mere scientific and physical calculation.

An atheist is willing to trade the potential of eternity for what they perceive to be maximum earthly fulfillment, while a Christian is willing to humble himself in regards to eternity, and he finds maximum earthly fulfillment in the process.
 
I just wanna know what guy originally decided to get it from a cow... did he go around drinking the tit-juice of every other mammal before he settled on that one being the best? What if Koala milk is the best shit in the world and we just don't know it yet?

Reminds me of that facebook "like" that floated around a while back

"You know the guy that discovered cow's milk? What the fuck was he doing to the cow?!"
 
I just wanna know what guy originally decided to get it from a cow... did he go around drinking the tit-juice of every other mammal before he settled on that one being the best? What if Koala milk is the best shit in the world and we just don't know it yet?

I've wondered the same thing about beer... Like, who was the first guy to come across a bunch of water full of fermented grains, and was like "Hey, I'd like to see what that tastes like!" :lol:
 
I find myself agreeing with you here, Aaron. But I tend to rarely use the word "God" (despite having a belief in God as a manifestation and metaphor of the unity of all things,) due to the fact that it alienates everyone else from you (more due to their own prejudices than our own.)
But "God" as metanarrative, sure. : )

The irony and hilarity of these things is that those who say that these things do not exist generally do not give off an aura of accepting all experience that comes their way, because they are still focusing on hierarchical thought processes and adding to their sense of self (ego.) Once you put these things aside and simply let all experiences exist to you in a state of equality, experiencing these kinds of things seems to almost become an inevitability. The only barrier from attaining any of this is oneself.
 
There is no such thing as a Vegan.

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oh yeah, I forgot: attention! gaming rant.

Mortal Kombat 1, 2, 3, Ultimate and 9 are indeed the best fighting games known to mankind. the big tits in mk9 suck though.

Kinect is everything I dreamed about when I was 8. So yeah, this is the future. Now the games need to suck less.

Gamepads for the new consoles are way too heavy and can't be thrown around without the possibility of killing someone, which sucks really hard.

Online gaming sucks. Period. It has nothing to do with social interaction in a way I like it. Most people around here don't even have a second gamepad at home anymore. Fuck them.

playstation sucks. they just have good exclusives.
 
I hear what you're trying to say- that an atheist doesn't literally consider himself to be some kind of god, and being that an atheist believes there to be no actual deity in control of the universe and no spiritual beings at work in the world, then psychologically, the concept of God is void...I won't argue with that, and I can see why that makes sense on the surface. But what I'm saying, is that from a functional standpoint, atheists are choosing to live as if they are their own god; that if God exists and has made his presence knowable in some way, atheists have chosen to let their own intellect take precedence over God's revelation. In that way, they have made their own intellect their god, completely ignoring that the path to belief may not be strictly a matter of intellectual accumulation.

Nothing I've posted in this thread so far is even specific to a Christian worldview- I am only arguing that if God exists and he has made his existence knowable, then atheists, with all their intellect, are completely and utterly missing the point because they have chosen their own minds to be gods, as it is their own mind that is keeping them from knowing God. If God doesn't exist, then fine- everything I do and believe is utterly meaningless anyway, but the question of God and eternity is certainly important enough that it deserves serious consideration...consideration that reaches beyond the conclusions can be drawn by mere scientific and physical calculation.

An atheist is willing to trade the potential of eternity for what they perceive to be maximum earthly fulfillment, while a Christian is willing to humble himself in regards to eternity, and he finds maximum earthly fulfillment in the process.

1 - You keep mentioning "if god has manifested himself" (made his existence knowable) as if it has happened, and it has not so you are simply making the assumption that "If god WOULD manifest himself then atheists would deny his existence based simply on science", and baseless assumptions are silly, of course religious people are experts in the field of assuming things without any proof.

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consideration that reaches beyond the conclusions can be drawn by mere scientific and physical calculation.
Excuse human beings for actually trusting science, given how it has actually PROVEN to be the most useful thing ever. How some people consider actually using our brains to the highest extent possible to be "mere calculation" is something I'll never understand