The Official Good Television Thread

It's a drama about the Australian news industry in the 80's. Lots of 80's clothes, songs and weird shit that people have tried to forget.
Supposedly not based on anyone but then they also said the book Boned wasn't written by Jessica Rowe after her treatment on channel 9 by Eddie Mcguire that effectively coined the phrase Boned.
 
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He plays a good character in Territory.
Nolan has balls and knows how hard he can swing them.
 
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Gonna binge through the Trailer Park Boys again. Been an annual thing for me but last year was just too hectic. I swear this show for some reason helps me get through even the most fucked up times.

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Gonna binge through the Trailer Park Boys again. Been an annual thing for me but last year was just too hectic. I swear this show for some reason helps me get through even the most fucked up times.

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Fuck yeah man.

"Today I'm just gonna go and fucking ruin everything they're doing. Fuck them. Teach them a lesson, that I'm in charge, not them."
 
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TD s1 courted an audience of true crime addicts who love serial killer stuff, they fell in love with Rust Cohle and all the themes he encapsulated, the show was vaguely horror genre infused etc etc and s2 was doomed to fall short the moment they decided not to repeat that formula. Personally I think s2 has aged a lot better than s1 has, and I might even prefer it.
 
TD s1 courted an audience of true crime addicts who love serial killer stuff, they fell in love with Rust Cohle and all the themes he encapsulated, the show was vaguely horror genre infused etc etc and s2 was doomed to fall short the moment they decided not to repeat that formula. Personally I think s2 has aged a lot better than s1 has, and I might even prefer it.

Vince Vaughn and his Yellowstone side chick still suck and I still have memories of that shitty arc for Colin Farrel. Let shitty television die you wanna be contrarian. "I might even prefer s2 to s1", the fuck.
 
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TD s1 courted an audience of true crime addicts who love serial killer stuff, they fell in love with Rust Cohle and all the themes he encapsulated, the show was vaguely horror genre infused etc etc and s2 was doomed to fall short the moment they decided not to repeat that formula. Personally I think s2 has aged a lot better than s1 has, and I might even prefer it.

I've wanted to rewatch S2 for a while now, and seeing this makes me want to do it even more. I'll always have a place in my heart for S1 and what it was doing, but I also have to admit that watching it now, it's kinda hard to ignore Nic Pizzolatto's weird crypto-conservatism. You're right that it hasn't aged well.
 
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Watching a NZ tv series called Top Of The Lake.
How the fuck can a bunch of women living in shipping containers, running around the long grass naked, led by a woman who sleeps with her glazed eyes open and hiding from the world be the fucking sanest people in the whole fucking town?
 
rare case of slammed watching a show i've actually seen, it's solid from what i remember.

i never liked s1 of TD as much as you guys and i've always had a sneaky feeling i'd like 2 better, but still haven't got around to it.
 
I've wanted to rewatch S2 for a while now, and seeing this makes me want to do it even more. I'll always have a place in my heart for S1 and what it was doing, but I also have to admit that watching it now, it's kinda hard to ignore Nic Pizzolatto's weird crypto-conservatism. You're right that it hasn't aged well.
What is crypto conservatism in this context? I tried rewatching a year or so ago and couldn't finish...thought it was too soon of a rewatch. Not sure yet.


I'm also on the same boat with The Wire, don't think I'll be able to go through with it again. Sopranos is now the only show I've gotten through multiple times, finishing again last year.
 
What is crypto conservatism in this context?
It's no one thing, just a bunch of little things. On the surface, S1 feels like a pretty progressive and iconoclastic season; but a few things never sat right with me, and paired with Pizzolatto's cringey slandering of the fourth season (which, say what you want about it, he didn't come off well), it feels like a quietly conservative story. It's a really smart show, but not always for the reasons it wants to be.

For starters, I never liked the ending of S1. It's too rosy and nice, with Marty's family sitting around him and Rust being all like, "Looks like the light's winning." It's a happy ending that shouldn't be, and it relies on conservative narrative tropes (the world needs bad men to kill the worse men, our women don't understand the struggle we go through but in the end they'll forgive us, good will always triumph over evil, etc.). I can't know how much of this was Pizzolatto and how much was his producers, but given HBO's proclivity for bleak or ambiguous endings elsewhere (Sopranos being possibly their most successful case in point), I feel as though it's probably his style coming through. And I know this is a tired cliche, but Marty's redemptive arc with his family always feels unearned and too sweet. It's a nice fantasy, but it's just that--a fantasy. Misogynistic, overly possessive dude regains his wife's and daughters' affection not by actually trying with them or working through his problems but by performing some heroic act.

I really like that final episode, but I do not like the last five minutes of it. At least one of them should have died in that fortress, and Marty didn't deserve his family's affection simply because he almost died. The ending yearns too much to reclaim familial wholeness and cosmic justice.