The Top 5 List Thread
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he's more annoying as a personality and actor than as a filmmaker though. the most annoying parts of his movies are usually his cameos
i'm kinda triggered by the wes anderson and coens picks but i mean, i get it lol. they're similar filmmakers in how tonally controlled and formally micro-managed and cutely structured everything is, but i love ultra calculated filmmakers where the feeling sneaks up through the OCD surface, it hits me way harder than naturalism or w/e. i get that it isn't for everyone, and i think if you aren't into one of their films within the first 20 minutes or so it can be a real slog sometimes.
i think haneke and von trier are intentionally trying to be annoying so while i'd agree i'm not sure it's a useful criticism lol. i'd throw inarritu in there, pretentious old fuck that he is.
i quite like luhrmann tbh! he is kind of a Women's Filmmaker but a good one
i'd probably pick someone like kevin smith or danny boyle or martin mcdonagh, but all those guys have their moments. some others who frequently annoy me are paul greengrass, sarah polley, gus van sant.
the ultimate answer though, even though he's a very adept director and always pretty Interesting imo, has to be m. night shyamalan. dude does so much annoying shit in his movies and seems like such a prick. it was kinda funny watching norm fuck with him on his show.
i'm kinda triggered by the wes anderson and coens picks but i mean, i get it lol. they're similar filmmakers in how tonally controlled and formally micro-managed and cutely structured everything is, but i love ultra calculated filmmakers where the feeling sneaks up through the OCD surface, it hits me way harder than naturalism or w/e. i get that it isn't for everyone, and i think if you aren't into one of their films within the first 20 minutes or so it can be a real slog sometimes.
i think haneke and von trier are intentionally trying to be annoying so while i'd agree i'm not sure it's a useful criticism lol. i'd throw inarritu in there, pretentious old fuck that he is.
i quite like luhrmann tbh! he is kind of a Women's Filmmaker but a good one
i'd probably pick someone like kevin smith or danny boyle or martin mcdonagh, but all those guys have their moments. some others who frequently annoy me are paul greengrass, sarah polley, gus van sant.
the ultimate answer though, even though he's a very adept director and always pretty Interesting imo, has to be m. night shyamalan. dude does so much annoying shit in his movies and seems like such a prick. it was kinda funny watching norm fuck with him on his show.
CiG
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What annoys me about Tarantino is that his scripts feel like pure masturbation to me. I'd like to see him try to make a silent film, just so he can prove he can make a film that doesn't have endless dialogue. That probably sounds like a retarded criticism and I can't remember when or which film of his set me off with this annoyance but now I just can't get over it. 
challenge_everything
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Funnily enough Kevin Smith, Danny Boyle and Gus Van Sant all narrowly missed out on my list. Boyle in particular was close, his "look at me" directorial style really shits me. Agree with Inarritu as well.
I actually love a lot of the Coens' movies but they really rile me in others, primarily their comedies.
I know Anderson's style is deliberate but I just find it insufferably twee with his stilted use of dialogue and wholly unlikable caricatures.
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What annoys me about Tarantino is that his scripts feel like pure masturbation to me. I'd like to see him try to make a silent film, just so he can prove he can make a film that doesn't have endless dialogue. That probably sounds like a retarded criticism and I can't remember when or which film of his set me off with this annoyance but now I just can't get over it.
I can see the force in this. That's why his films work much better when the dialogue zings like in Pulp Fiction, and really struggle otherwise (Hateful Eight).
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Funny you mention Kevin Smith because I have similar issues with him. His dialogues are so self-indulgent at times, specifically in films like Chasing Amy and Dogma.
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i used to feel that way about anderson but he opened up to me after a few years as i began to recognise the undercurrents of pain and longing fuelling that style. his films are essentially attempts to preserve innocence from a place of experience, creating fragile illusions of the ideal as a shield against painful reality. it would be boring if this escapism was completely successful but by nature it never can be, so there's this tension at the heart of it, and his films have become more ingenious and self-appraising as he's become more aware of that. while i'm not sure if it's my favourite, i think THE GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL is his magnum opus in how it summarises and pushes furthest the themes/emotions running throughout his career - it's also among his least 'twee' for what it's worth.
the coens' comedies are pretty hit and miss for me, i never liked O BROTHER for example but i do like THE BIG LEBOWSKI and BURN AFTER READING a lot. RAISING ARIZONA i usually don't like much for a while and then something clicks and the final passage always kills me.
yeah i mostly hate boyle but i liked TRANCE a lot for some reason. i have fond memories of SHALLOW GRAVE too but i haven't seen that since i was a teenager so it might be shitty.
i think tarantino has shown enough over the course of his career to suggest that he can be a great director without dialogue. he's directed plenty of strong action scenes, suspense scenes, quite a few memorable images. i like his writing anyway though, generally speaking. i mean it's hard to praise or criticise tarantino too much because he's really just channelling movies he's seen and loved. he's the ultimate postmodern filmmaker in that he's paradoxically at his most personal when he's quoting movies he's seen, because they define his entire identity. it's hard to say how much credit he really deserves for these pastiches; his most notable trait is his taste in & boundless affection for movies.
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I do appreciate Tarantino's film geeking, it's easily his most redeeming feature I think. It's why the Kill Bill films are my favourite of his stuff actually, it's like a rollercoaster ride of insane references and genre worshipping.
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For the record, I love The Big Lebowski.
Let's settle this in the appropriate form.
Top 5 Coen brothers movies:
1. Miller's Crossing
2. The Big Lebowski
3. No Country for Old Men
4. Hail, Caesar! (yes controversial I know)
5. Inside Llewyn Davis
Let's settle this in the appropriate form.
Top 5 Coen brothers movies:
1. Miller's Crossing
2. The Big Lebowski
3. No Country for Old Men
4. Hail, Caesar! (yes controversial I know)
5. Inside Llewyn Davis
CiG
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The Hudsucker Proxy might be the worst example of a Coen bros comedy and I haven't even seen it, but I'm basing this on the fact that nobody I know seems to have seen it either and the ones that have either don't remember anything about it or treat it as if it's meh.
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Poser Disposer
1. No Country for Old Men
The Big Lebowski
Fargo
Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
The Big Lebowski
Fargo
Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
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1. Fargo
2. The Man Who Wasn't There
3. No Country for Old Men
4. The Big Lebowski
5. Miller's Crossing
2. The Man Who Wasn't There
3. No Country for Old Men
4. The Big Lebowski
5. Miller's Crossing
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I can't really finalise a Coen Bros list as I'm more endeared to the ones I've seen multiple times, and the newest I've seen is True Grit. But I'd probably be starting with these:
1. Fargo
2. The Hudsucker Proxy
Intolerable Cruelty
No Country for Old Men
The Ladykillers
True Grit
I used to think Hudsucker was a bit slow but I've mellowed out and found it hilarious when I rewatched it this year. Its dystopian setting is great, a total homage to the likes of Brazil.
1. Fargo
2. The Hudsucker Proxy
Intolerable Cruelty
No Country for Old Men
The Ladykillers
True Grit
I used to think Hudsucker was a bit slow but I've mellowed out and found it hilarious when I rewatched it this year. Its dystopian setting is great, a total homage to the likes of Brazil.
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it's actually pretty solid tbf, it was co-written by raimi and he directed the best scene. i think INTOLERABLE CRUELTY and THE LADYKILLERS are worse. i like O BROTHER less as well but i know i'm in the minority there.
1) the man who wasn't there
2) miller's crossing
3) inside llewyn davis
4) no country for old men
5) blood simple
6) barton fink
7) fargo
8) the big lebowski
9) raising arizona
10) burn after reading
best top 10 list of any director(s) ever?
