The Ultimate Modelling Challenge
- Thread starter Lasse Lammert
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TheDude
Jocke Skog
We're still waiting Jocke!
Yeah, my time for this has been... limited, but today I did try for a short while before I had to go home and I didn't have an IR in the Axe-FX that sounded remotely like Lasse original. However the character of the amps wasn't that hard to get. More of a "default" setting, with lower BIAS.
I'll continue tomorrow.
Great idea, IMO. But I have a question....PODs and Axe-FX units have eq blocks that can be added to the internal signal chains. Are POD and Axe-FX users allowed to use these? Or are they limited to just the stomp, sim, cab, mic?
YHowever the character of the amps wasn't that hard to get. More of a "default" setting, with lower BIAS.
yeah, thought that would be the case with the AxeFX.....cool device really
TheDude
Jocke Skog
So whatever you do, Lasse, DON'T give out an IR of your miking.
Haha, I know I promised you I would (for the Uber-Tweaking)...
and I'm still planning on doing it, it's just too much hassle for me atm to do it...well actually not the "doing it", but the "learning how to"....I still need an idiot-proof step by step guide with all the files (sweeps etc) supplied.
I know, it's all over the web and this forum, but I'll never be using impulses myself, so I was never really interested in finding the info.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Nah, you don't have to. This little test is good enough, or even better because it has more amps included. Since it has the same miking setup, it's really nice to hear the different characters of the amps. I actually overslept, and is spending my day in front of the XBox.
Should change my nick to "Lazy Bastard", but I don't have the stamina to do it. 
vicnest
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It sounds pretty good. A little too fat compared to "Mesa Rectifier RevF.mp3"
In real world, too much tube combinations and tube aging. Way too much paramters to simulate.
MetalMiller
¯\(°_o)/¯
Alright, think i got it! After some search i found a way to nail the tones maybe to 95%. I used a technique Wild Hades posted years ago.
Here´s the link to the thread:http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/355055-best-way-match-eq-impulses-lot-stuff-inside-clips-impulses-images.html
Tried to match the tone of the KrankensteinPlus. Zero EQing!!
Original: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/KrankensteinPlus.mp3
My version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/KrankensteinPlus Match.mp3
It´s my first test. With more effort i´m sure you can make even better tones. I used TSS and 8505 and just realized it would have been better matching the 5150 clip since the 8505 is a 5150 sim.
Here´s the link to the thread:http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/355055-best-way-match-eq-impulses-lot-stuff-inside-clips-impulses-images.html
Tried to match the tone of the KrankensteinPlus. Zero EQing!!
Original: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/KrankensteinPlus.mp3
My version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/KrankensteinPlus Match.mp3
It´s my first test. With more effort i´m sure you can make even better tones. I used TSS and 8505 and just realized it would have been better matching the 5150 clip since the 8505 is a 5150 sim.
Wild Hades
Clean channels are for pussies
ahah!
That's a bit cheating
Although it would take the cab and the amp frequency response out of the equation and show if the distortion character is close.
That's a bit cheating
Although it would take the cab and the amp frequency response out of the equation and show if the distortion character is close.
GeertSamuel
Member
You will never be able to simulate the warmth of tubes through an ampsim. Tubes are a variable in the chain that's undoable to copy. Ampsims are handy...get you close, but not there..
drew_drummer
Dancefap
I gave it a go. Couldn't get anywhere near close. But honestly, I don't see the point without making the test more scientific than it is currently.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Gotta love that "You will never..." thing. So human, so sure, and so wrong. Like flying (a while ago for sure but anyway), walking on the moon, "the mp3 format is no threat to the recording industry", Irak has weapons of mass-destruction, and the list goes on.
+1.........you cant beat a well mic'ed tube amp......alot of people have gotten great tones with amp sims but digital still sounds digital....the key here is good mic technique and good mic preamps to capture the amps goodness.. a good amp is useless if mic'ed wrong just my thoughts:Smug:
I was messing around with lasse's riff and found it pretty groovy so I swung my butt behind my TD-20 (and later my bass) and jammed along and the result is this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/704796/modelling_challenge.mp3
Sorry for OT, I simply had to do this
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/704796/modelling_challenge.mp3
Sorry for OT, I simply had to do this
Gotta love that "You will never..." thing. So human, so sure, and so wrong. Like flying (a while ago for sure but anyway), walking on the moon, "the mp3 format is no threat to the recording industry", Irak has weapons of mass-destruction, and the list goes on.
jocke you'Re my man, haha !
btw. i downloaded your "clawfinger irs" that you did with fredrik, havent checked them out yet, are you still using some of those ?
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Here's a clip of my new toy (still under development).. it's a simulation of the 5150II/6505+ and you didn't have any clips of that amp in the "challenge".. so it's closer to the 5153 than the 5150.. I suck at matching tones anyway
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1369729/MP3/X50/x50_2.mp3
- TSS Vintage Overdrive
- .. the neverending project X50
- Sperimental Mesa Trad 4x12 V30 SM57 05 (LeCab)
- No EQ
I've had some issues with the project, and still do..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1369729/MP3/X50/x50_2.mp3
- TSS Vintage Overdrive
- .. the neverending project X50
- Sperimental Mesa Trad 4x12 V30 SM57 05 (LeCab)
- No EQ
I've had some issues with the project, and still do..
poisson
New Metal Member
Here's my shot... and damnit if I didn't have to follow Onqel
Anywhoo, I chased the 5150 clip with my latest plug;
TSS->classAct->kefir(Mesa IR)
I could never get that punchy chunk as in the original, I'm thinking it's all in that cab you used or just my way of denying defeat.
classactChallenge5150.mp3
Anywhoo, I chased the 5150 clip with my latest plug;
TSS->classAct->kefir(Mesa IR)
I could never get that punchy chunk as in the original, I'm thinking it's all in that cab you used or just my way of denying defeat.
classactChallenge5150.mp3
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