The Whining and Bitching Thread

WorldObliteration33 said:
How do people listen to early Slayer and stop there in 2024 almost 2025? I'm not even talking about taking the plunge into extreme metal immediately. By the time I was listening to Slayer it wasn't more than a month later that I was at least aware of Bathory, Norwegian black metal and legacy death metal acts. Remember, this is early 2000s internet too. I was mostly getting this information from metal publications.

Think it's just wilful fucking ignorance and lack of overall interest in diving deep into even the most surface level parts of the underground. Either way I'm tired of running into these types of people. Knowing who Bathory is, knowing what metal-archives is, and, frankly, just not being stupid isn't asking a lot from someone who claims to like heavy music.

Probably sound like jdawg but, hey, sometimes you gotta poser bash.
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Always figured people like this just aren't in it like the rest of us and never will be. I had a mate that worshiped Maiden but refused to go a single step further. Wouldn't even give Priest or Sabbath the time of day, let alone any other NWOBHM bands.
 
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Yep, it's always those 1 or 2 band people who are the fucking worst about that.

How about appreciating bands on their own merits instead of comparing every band you hear to your favorite band?
 
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It's annoying and awkward when you find yourself locked into a conversation with someone about music the person you're having it with knows nothing about. Otherwise I wouldn't.

People like that aren't always nice about it either. I try to talk to anyone about music as if they already know the bands I'm mentioning but even that isn't useful when the person is only going to give you a weird look and not even make an effort to take recommendations.

It's FINE to be new to metal or anything else for that matter and you and I both know you are anyway so cut the shit and be humble for once in your life. That's how I got into metal. 🙄
 
I remember having a co-worker who, when we first met, name dropped your typical nu-metal or early 2000s metalcore and I would basically give him work around responses without giving him my actual opinion. Ya know, to be polite, and avoid coming across as a concieted asshole.

Later on he asks me to send him some music I'm into. I send him death metal (might've been Demigod) and it was the typical "can't understand what they're saying, this is just noise, etc." response. Whatever. Later on he starts berating me about the music I share on Facebook, how it's terrible, how he can't last two seconds without shutting it off and how he can't believe someone could like music like that.

It's like "Hey asshole, if I knew you were going to act like this, I would've dusted off my old faithful poser bludgeoning crowbar I haven't used since high school the second you opened your mouth about Killswitch Engage, and Slipknot, and Korn, and As Blood Runs Black and whatever other shit you like that isn't even in the same wheelhouse of what I listen to."

I didn't because I'm not 16 anymore but my point is that being modest and not caring what another person listens to isn't always returned lol. Run into that situation a couple of different times.
 
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Ahh the good ole poser bludgeoning crowbar...
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Same type of person to cry "gatekeeping" and "elitism" when someone rips on his favorite bands.

There's only one type of person who uses those words. Someone who is insecure about being too much of a wimp to listen to more aggressive, challenging music than the above bands. People make fun of those bands for the same reason you make fun of Demigod. They're totally different styles. The only difference is that your music is significantly gayer and you are significantly gayer for not liking Demigod.
 
I've solved that problem by not, and I do mean that quite literally, giving a shit about what other people listen to, much less what they think of the music I listen to. Might have helped that my favorite genre is cheesy power metal, which is the last genre to be a fucking gatekeeper about.
 
I don't care. If I did I'd just listen to whatever normal people listen to or I'd react angrily to what this guy said (which I didn't).

But that doesn't mean it isn't still annoying trying to navigate around a conversation without just being dishonest and this is the whining and bitching thread so perfect place to, ya know, whine and bitch. Feel like everyone into niche, underground music goes through this a lot anyway and knows how exhausting it can be.
 
Also, and for the record, I wound up being pretty good friends with this guy. We've faded out over the years but I've never been so impacted by differing opinions on music that I can't get along with someone. Mostly referring to a bit of mildly annoying ball busting from someone who is clueless about underground metal and has no interest.
 
I'd much rather hang out with someone like that who is honest about it from the get go than someone who not only grows out of metal, but treats you like you're pathetic and immature for still liking it. I've had a number of friends like that and they're worth cutting out of your life. A person like that doesn't have any respect for you in general.
 
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back when i was Living in Dallas (now living in fort worth) i had this (horribly abusive) girlfriend where we had this weekly schedule thing
where we saw the same exact same people every single Monday, the exact same people every Tuesday, etc etc for the whole week, where we saw the exact same people every single calendar week even though we didn't see the same people every day,
then one day me and this psycho-bitch girlfriend went to go do our Saturday things and i never found out what the fuck it was i did to piss her off
but she's all like "i wanna go home" and I'm like, "but we just got here" and after a min i just give up trying to talk to her and i cave and the 2 of us go home
where she gives me a black eye
when she gives me the black eye she's not trying to hurt my face (she gives me a pain pill first so it won't hurt as bad) she's trying to bruise my face (she's holding my chin in place with one hand to make sure she can make the bruise properly with her other hand) then next Saturday she takes me back to the place where i did whatever it was i did to piss her off, and she's making me walk around her Saturday friends with this horrible black eye as my punishment for whatever it is i did to "embarrass her" the week before, walking around with the black eye was to show her friends that she was in control of me, which she was, considering that i let her hold my chin in place with one hand while she punched me in the eye with her other hand

this horribly fucked up crazy girl was the LONGEST relationship that I've ever been in
 
all my Christmas food got stolen and all the weekly food places are closed till new year's day so i haven't been able to eat anything today

tomorrow I'm prolly gonna go to the taste community restaurant again
this resturaunt does a "pay what you can afford" thing where homeless people go in and pay for their meal with a nickel
the staff knows me as the guy who comes in more frequently than any other customer
and in addition to being ble to pay for my meal with just a penny, the food is actually awesome
here's a video of this resturaunt


EDIT
just looked at the website and noticed that this restaurant (that is never open on Mondays) will also be closed tomorrow and Wednesday because of new years
I'll definitely be going Thursday if i can
i really love this place
 
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Blurry_Dreams said:
we had this weekly schedule thing
where we saw the same exact same people every single Monday, the exact same people every Tuesday, etc etc for the whole week, where we saw the exact same people every single calendar week even though we didn't see the same people every day,
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As an introvert that sounds like one of the 7 levels of hell to me. It reminds me of some of my Dad's stories of travelling to the USA for work. He worked in railways and he'd go to conferences and connect with managers from the railway companies and whatnot. The American guys never had dinner at home. Going out for dinner every damn night of the week was just how they lived. That seemed so reckless to us. Huge American diner or buffet meals. The old-fashioned thing of obesity as a sign of wealth.

Last time I holidayed in the US was with my parents. Often eating at diners day after day as that's what was around that we could agree on. I came away from that with an extra 9 lbs and being the heaviest I'd ever been in my life, hah.
 
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