The Whining and Bitching Thread

[EternalMetal]

Just over 5 years in a brokerage call center. People who throw a bitch fit, especially before at least giving you a legit chance to fix their problem will get helped just enough to get them off the phone. Their problem will likely persist. Why? I'm not an ass, but when you put me (already in a generally stressful job) in an even more stressful situation of both trying to manage your caustic personality AND trying to fix the problem you won't get nearly as much clarity of thought from me by putting me on the spot with your angry or rude demands. Also you won't get near the same level of effort as I just want to end the conversation and move on to helping a more amicable customer on the next call.

Don't get me wrong: letting the phone rep push you around is just as bad of a situation as some of them will just blow you off "oh, um that's a glitch that should resolve itself in 2 days, etc." so they can go back to playing Angry Birds, but in general you'll get the best results being clear with what the problem is, firm with your expectations, but still ultimately friendly and willing to work with the person.

This sounds alright to me. I dont immediately read the riot act to the other dude on the other side of the phone; actually im going to give him a legitimate chance to solve my problem since psychologically I realize that being mean from the get-go gets me absolutely nowhere. But once I realize that I am being diverted or ignored, my words will begin to drip with acid and I will start being more assertive. I want my problem solved after all, even if it means giving someone a hard time. Then again, I do realize that people will be less willing to try to help you out if you treat them like shit, so I try to remain civil as long as they remain compliant. From what you say, I probably wouldnt give you a hard time, but if you were to give me the 'I am just a lowly call answerer and cant fix your problem' type of excuse, I probably wont give you the type of pleasant response you would want. I honestly dont care if your company sucks and doesnt give you enough freedom to fix relevant issues of the customer, if I am paying for a service of any kind I should be able to get any sort of issue that is reasonably solvable fixed. Employees of such a service should probably be forced to quit due to overly negative feedback. If you are working for such a company that actually resolves issues (im not going to be so cynical that I believe all customer service lines are bullshit), then great, I will probably be a nice call.

 

[RedStorm]

On family vacation, nephew went seized several times. Been wanting to get a drag of something but I left my vape at home and don't smoke cigarettes anymore. I'm gonna try and smoke green tea. This fucking sucks

 

[CiG]

Cut your toe off and smoke it.

 

[RedStorm]

I've already tried

 

[The Butt]

That's metal as fuck.

 

[RedStorm]

Just smoked it, effects are minimal but acceptable, taste wasn't bad. Odor not too overwhelming. After taste is shitty as always. I hate wanting to do this, I just need to have my vape with me where ever i go

 

[CiG]

End vape culture.

 

[RedStorm]

Vape culture is fucking stupid I just like to use the tool

 

[CiG]

I was parodying the whole "end rape culture" thing. Is vape culture an actual thing?

 

[RedStorm]

Yes, there are some retards who've created a very shameful community around it and a lot of them are stuck up ass holes

 

[Lunella]

@RedStorm
Sounds like something 30 year old man children would say.

 

[EternalMetal]

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/vape-culture-is-real

A quick google search yielded this. lol

I have actually noticed a pronounced increase of people my age or younger vaping in the past couple of years. There are vape shops popping up everywhere, even in rural towns. Im guessing it has something to do with mankind's oral fixation, whether it be to smoke pipes, cigarettes, cigars, weed, etc, except now there is an arguably much safer alternative that is starting to gain traction. In the past 40 or so years, smoking has been demonized because it has become linked to many health issues, and it looks like the safer alternative is starting to become mainstream. Personally I think it is a nice relaxing activity to do when listening to music or watching tv shows/movies, so im looking to pick myself up a vaporizer myself. Ive been an on and off smoker since ive been 15/16, and I think it would be a better habit than buying the occasional pack.

Im guessing that vaping hasnt become mainstream in Australia yet? I think you would have to be blind (at least in the US) to be ignorant of the cultural shift from tobacco products to vaping ones these days.

@ Lunella - It's more of a teenager/early 20s millennial thing, but there definitely is a popular movement going on. Im not sure RedStorm is old enough to qualify as a man-child since he is still in high school though.

 

[Draehl]

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/you-vape-high-levels-formaldehyde-hidden-e-cigs-n290826

Of course everything will always be scrutinized, but don't immediately think it's better than cigs. Coffee and (if they'd make it legal here) weed pills/cooked into food are probably the best upper/downer combo possible. I've never cared for smoking in general, so I guess that's easy for me to say...

 

[Lunella]

@ Lunella - It's more of a teenager/early 20s millennial thing, but there definitely is a popular movement going on. Im not sure RedStorm is old enough to qualify as a man-child since he is still in high school though.

Oh, didn't mean it as an insult to him. But it does sound like something younger people would say that then man children get wind of and start saying at bars and the rest of us are just like cringe lol.

 

[RedStorm]

@RedStorm
Sounds like something 30 year old man children would say.

What part of what I said? Quote the post

Also the vaping is something I appreciate and I'm fine if people like it but just like anything else it shouldn't be overly romanticized

 

[CiG]

Which part sounds like a man child opinion? I'm confused.

@EternalMetal it could be popular here, I don't notice things anymore with culture, don't get out enough or hang out with many drug users anymore.

 

[EternalMetal]

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/you-vape-high-levels-formaldehyde-hidden-e-cigs-n290826

Of course everything will always be scrutinized, but don't immediately think it's better than cigs. Coffee and (if they'd make it legal here) weed pills/cooked into food are probably the best upper/downer combo possible. I've never cared for smoking in general, so I guess that's easy for me to say...

Im not going to go out on a limb and say that it is harmless, but at the moment I think that it is safe to assume that vaping is less harmful that smoking. At the very least your risk of something like COPD or emphysema should be very much reduced, but you are right in noting that there may be some carcinogenic byproducts in the vapor. I have also seen studies such as this one (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230015301549) that suggests lower levels of formaldehyde than that out of date article suggests, but I am dubious of the results because some of the funding from the study comes from a vaping company. As far as your relation to drugs, vaping does not get you high, and some of the formulas offered out there dont even contain nicotine, so it isnt an apt comparison. Id say it is a habit more akin to chewing gum or hard candy.

Oh, didn't mean it as an insult to him. But it does sound like something younger people would say that then man children get wind of and start saying at bars and the rest of us are just like cringe lol.

Or something an impressionable teenager notices in more 'douchy' circles in high school or college. I wasnt really aware of it's prevalence in hipster culture, but im guessing that it may play a part. I havent noticed personally.

@CASSETTEISGOD - Fair enough. The only reason why I noticed the trend is because younger members of my rescue squad all vape and have told me things. To me this shows a disconnect from drug users and vape users, but then again I dont discuss drugs with healthcare related people so there could be an even higher percentage of drug users who vape, idk. Also I have seen an increasing tendency of people younger than us to vape in social situations and stuff. You see it everywhere around here.

 

[Dak]

Now oldie but goodie:

 

[RedStorm]

Tis true in some cases. But vaping in itself isn't bad.

 

[RedStorm]

Second experience with green tea:
Better joint paper quality, I used that subway paper that they pack your subs with. Tasted pretty good besides the joint which makes everything worse then it actually is.
3 stages I noticed
Takes 10 minutes to kick in by inhalation
Then the first hits
A delirious stage almost akin to being tipsy (10 minutes)
Second stage is the first but intensified (this stage lasts the longest, 20 minutes or a little more)
Then the drug starts to wear off but in leaves in aftershocks.
I walked and I assume that sitting will make the experience less intense.

Buying a stone pipe soon so I don't need to use shitty joints.

What I've learned about using, try not to use joints with anything including this, bad for your health and makes things taste bad. And do not sit. This will lessen the effects. Third don't let your pussy friends tell you that smoking green tea doesn't do any thing, it does. It's just there are way better alternatives.